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Re: Working MM Stations

Martin Tuip
 

I have followed at least twice a AM station on SSB.  He flies a cargo 757. Couldn't break the pileup though on that one.


-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 08/17/2015 5:33 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] Working MM Stations

 

I think most of us have worked one or more Maritime Mobile station(s) on PSK31.  Are these QSOs any good for any awards with any club or DX group?  Maybe when the 070 Club gurus are thinking of adding more awards, there could be one for working MM stations?

 

Just a thought.

 

Happy Radio!

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK


Re: Working MM Stations

John Etling
 

Or lighthouses/Lightships…

 

Just saying…

 

73 de K3JAE

070-1820

 

From: Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 19:34
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] Working MM Stations

 

 

I think most of us have worked one or more Maritime Mobile station(s) on PSK31.  Are these QSOs any good for any awards with any club or DX group?  Maybe when the 070 Club gurus are thinking of adding more awards, there could be one for working MM stations?

 

Just a thought.

 

Happy Radio!

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK


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Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

John Etling
 

Shoot, I was thinking more like the Dairy Queen position… You know, female… She Whom Must be Obeyed!! LOL

 

73 de K3JAE

070-1820

 

From: 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 17:34
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

 

 

Milt,

 

Director of Public Relations???  LOL!!!

You've been promoted!  Congratulations!

 

That just goes to show that you can find humor in the most unlikely of places.

Thanks for the lift Milt.  I'll be sure to recommend you for the position of Burger King when it becomes available.

 

73

Joe

KA1PPV  #1482

 

 

 

 

On Monday, August 17, 2015 6:20 PM, "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Listen, guys!

We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.

We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.

It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??

Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.

You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.

It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.

In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.

While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.

J

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Dan:

 

 

I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

 

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

 

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  

 

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.

 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

 

 


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Re: Working MM Stations

Matthew King - KK4CPS <mrk.twg@...>
 

Hey, Bill!

They specifically do not count for IOTA credit when the vessel is docked at an island. 

We'll give some thought to the notion of a "/MM" endorsement of sorts - neat idea!

73


Matt King

070 #1708 LONP #261

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I think most of us have worked one or more Maritime Mobile station(s) on PSK31.  Are these QSOs any good for any awards with any club or DX group?  Maybe when the 070 Club gurus are thinking of adding more awards, there could be one for working MM stations?

 

Just a thought.

 

Happy Radio!

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK



Working MM Stations

Bill Garwood
 

I think most of us have worked one or more Maritime Mobile station(s) on PSK31.  Are these QSOs any good for any awards with any club or DX group?  Maybe when the 070 Club gurus are thinking of adding more awards, there could be one for working MM stations?

 

Just a thought.

 

Happy Radio!

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK


Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

 

Joe,

I really liked “Chairman – 070 Club’s Cheerleading Committee, ad hoc or Otherwise”,

But management said it just didn’t have Pizzazz Enuf...

Just sayin’...

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

LONP #76

PODXS 070 Club - Director of Public Relations

High Sheriff of the APE House 2015

Chairman – Upcoming “Annual New Member Jamboree for 2015” – (Don’t ask me anything yet.)

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:34 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

 

 

Milt,

 

Director of Public Relations???  LOL!!!

You've been promoted!  Congratulations!

 

That just goes to show that you can find humor in the most unlikely of places.

Thanks for the lift Milt.  I'll be sure to recommend you for the position of Burger King when it becomes available.

 

73

Joe

KA1PPV  #1482

 

 

 

 

On Monday, August 17, 2015 6:20 PM, "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Listen, guys!

We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.

We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.

It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??

Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.

You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.

It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.

In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.

While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.

J

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Dan:

 

 

I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

 

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

 

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  

 

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.

 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

 

 


Re: Strange band today

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Jerry - Oh, I don’t disagree with you there, if in fact you knew for sure he could hear you.  I guess if it was a local he should have heard you.  Maybe he doesn’t like you?? hihi

In those cases, you are certainly correct.   Now, see there, you had to go ruin my day by mentioning that dreadful 4 letter proper name, however, nothing proper about that!!

Dan Morris




On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Dan:


I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.   

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.


Jerry



From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...> 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 
Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065





On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

Just sayin'


Jerry  N9AVY







Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

boat.anchor@...
 

Jerry
Just saying
How does one find out if the "offending" party has a real radio and a real antenna
and can actually hear before txing. I do believe some hams are disadvantaged 
with their set-up and may not hear in the same radius that they transmit. We 
sure don't want to criticize the poor bloke just eking it out. On the other hand if
there is no question then a yellow card is probably merited. It is up to the issuer
if there has been an infringement.
enjoy the evening
over and out
Barry



---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

No more complaints, whining nor sniveling from me. 

I'll just send out notice to offending stations in U.S. ...

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

Jerry N9AVY
 

No more complaints, whining nor sniveling from me. 

I'll just send out notice to offending stations in U.S. ...

Jerry  N9AVY



From: "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:20 PM
Subject: [070] This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

 
Listen, guys!
We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.
We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.
It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??
Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.
You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.
It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.
In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.
While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.
J
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations
 
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
 
 
Dan:
 
 
I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.
 
It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.
 
Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  
 
If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.
 
 
Jerry
 
 
 
From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
 
 
Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   
 
I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!
 
Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.
 
Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065
 
 
 
 
On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
 
Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.
 
Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.
 
This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 
 
Just sayin'
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY
 
 
 



Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

ljl2002@att.net
 

Milt,

Director of Public Relations???  LOL!!!
You've been promoted!  Congratulations!

That just goes to show that you can find humor in the most unlikely of places.
Thanks for the lift Milt.  I'll be sure to recommend you for the position of Burger King when it becomes available.

73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482





On Monday, August 17, 2015 6:20 PM, "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Listen, guys!
We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.
We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.
It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??
Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.
You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.
It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.
In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.
While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.
J
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations
 
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
 
 
Dan:
 
 
I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.
 
It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.
 
Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  
 
If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.
 
 
Jerry
 
 
 
From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
 
 
Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   
 
I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!
 
Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.
 
Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065
 
 
 
 
On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
 
Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.
 
Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.
 
This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 
 
Just sayin'
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY
 
 
 



This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

 

Listen, guys!

We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.

We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.

It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??

Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.

You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.

It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.

In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.

While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.

J

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Dan:

 

 

I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

 

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

 

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  

 

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.

 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

 


Re: Strange band today

John Etling
 

I have to agree with Milt here – if one watches the waterfall, sees traces, monitors it for a few minutes to make sure that trace is not working a QSO – even if you do not hear the 2nd party, simply decoding/reading the decode will tell you the person is in QSO by the content of the text.

 

WITH that point made I also agree with Jerry, Cannot stand it when I am “holding the frequency” and I just complete a QSO with a DX station and someone pounces right on it to try and make contact with that DX station. Really??? People like that simply needs to be choked with their own coax….  

 

I’m just saying…. also.

 

73 de K3JAE

John 070-1820

 

From: Jerry n9avy@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 16:55
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Dan:

 

 

I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

 

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

 

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  

 

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.

 

 

Jerry

 

 

 

From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

 


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Re: Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

Mike Flowers
 

And there you have it!

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:10 PM, 'John Etling' john@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Yeppers… 08/10/15 @ 17:09 UTC – 20m PSK31.

 

73 de K3JAE

John 070-1820

 

From: 'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 14:22
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

John...

I’m too lazy to ck the logs...but did you get W6QP last week?

W6QP

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:41 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

Oh that is just great – let the APEs talk to each other, tell all our baiting secrets and then NONE of us will get to capture any APES…. LOL

 

73 de K3JAE

 

From: 'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:24
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

Mike,

Yes Sir, there sure has.

It’ll take me some time to dig it out, but I’m pretty sure W6QP did it in 2011...more than once that year.

Milt.

N6MG

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:13 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

I’m just wondering is there has ever been an APE to APE QSO?

 

I vaguely remember that there may have been one.

 

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC

 


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Re: Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

John Etling
 

Yeppers… 08/10/15 @ 17:09 UTC – 20m PSK31.

 

73 de K3JAE

John 070-1820

 

From: 'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 14:22
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

John...

I’m too lazy to ck the logs...but did you get W6QP last week?

W6QP

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:41 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

Oh that is just great – let the APEs talk to each other, tell all our baiting secrets and then NONE of us will get to capture any APES…. LOL

 

73 de K3JAE

 

From: 'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 11:24
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

Mike,

Yes Sir, there sure has.

It’ll take me some time to dig it out, but I’m pretty sure W6QP did it in 2011...more than once that year.

Milt.

N6MG

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:13 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 

 

I’m just wondering is there has ever been an APE to APE QSO?

 

I vaguely remember that there may have been one.

 

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC

 


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Re: Strange band today

Jerry N9AVY
 

Dan:


I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.

It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.

Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  

If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.


Jerry



From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 
Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065





On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

Just sayin'


Jerry  N9AVY





Re: Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Burundi ??? Like in Africa ??? The call sign doesn't indicate that it was /Burundi .

How did I miss that one ?

Jerry  n9avy



From: "David Rock david@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

 
* Mike Flowers mike.flowers@... [070] <070@...> [2015-08-17 09:13]:
> I'm just wondering is there has ever been an APE to APE QSO?
>
> I vaguely remember that there may have been one.

Ape-solutely. I had one last year with WB5CXC when I was working as K2BSA/9.

My log entry:
WB5CXC 20140809 215837 21.07100 PSK31 USA

And WB5CXC's:
2014-08-09-220640 15M K2BSA/9 1604 Burundi 21070 PSK31

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...



Re: Strange band today

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Thanks Milt — Finally someone agrees with me!! lol    I totally agree with you my friend.

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065



On Aug 17, 2015, at 5:29 PM, 'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Dan,

You’ll not get any hate email from me.

I’ve observed the same thing over and over again. I do the same thing as you. I watch the waterfall when I log on, and chasing LONP, the 1stthing I do is to click on traces to see what’s there. And, being a DX’r over 40 years, I then click on weak traces, just as I listen for weak fluttery cw signals.

I’ve never had anyone come back and tell me that they were on a particular frequency after I called cq.

I don’t send “QRL” or even ask if a frequency is in use. I use my eyeball.

AND, I don’t tell other stations what to do, or how to operate or scold someone for not operating as I do.

Just saying...

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:18 PM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

  

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 




Re: Strange band today

 

Dan,

You’ll not get any hate email from me.

I’ve observed the same thing over and over again. I do the same thing as you. I watch the waterfall when I log on, and chasing LONP, the 1st thing I do is to click on traces to see what’s there. And, being a DX’r over 40 years, I then click on weak traces, just as I listen for weak fluttery cw signals.

I’ve never had anyone come back and tell me that they were on a particular frequency after I called cq.

I don’t send “QRL” or even ask if a frequency is in use. I use my eyeball.

AND, I don’t tell other stations what to do, or how to operate or scold someone for not operating as I do.

Just saying...

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:18 PM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today

 

 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

 

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

 

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

 

Just saying --


Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065

 

 

 

On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

 

Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

 

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

 

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

 

Just sayin'

 

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 


Re: Strange band today

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   

I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!

Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.

Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065



On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.

Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.

This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 

Just sayin'


Jerry  N9AVY



Re: Has there ever been and APE to APE QSO?

David, K9DWR
 

* Mike Flowers mike.flowers@gmail.com [070] <070@yahoogroups.com> [2015-08-17 09:13]:
I'm just wondering is there has ever been an APE to APE QSO?

I vaguely remember that there may have been one.
Ape-solutely. I had one last year with WB5CXC when I was working as K2BSA/9.

My log entry:
WB5CXC 20140809 215837 21.07100 PSK31 USA

And WB5CXC's:
2014-08-09-220640 15M K2BSA/9 1604 Burundi 21070 PSK31

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com