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Re: EURAO Party 30M

Jerry N9AVY
 


From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Jerry's antenna is an example of one designed specifically to work on 30 meters. Being able to work 17m and 12m is a bonus.

There are a lot of antennas with traps, but few of them are trapped for 30 meters.

Ray N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 03:11 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 
I have a Cushcraft D3 which is a rotatable dipole for 12/17/30m. It works well on 30m, but I would caution folks not to try it on 40m because that will damage traps.

Jerry  n9avy


From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
To work 30 meters well, you need an antenna specifically designed to work 30 meters.

If you have a wide range tuner (I use the MFJ 993B), you can tune nearly anything, but that does not mean the antenna will be efficient. I have a 40 meter OCF antenna and I have used it to work a few stations on 30 meters using the tuner, but performance has not been very good. 

Buckmaster offers an 8 band OCF antenna that will work 8 bands from 160 meters to 6 meters, but 15 meters, 30 meters and 60 meters are noticeably absent from the list. That is because those bands feed into a high-voltage node on the wire causing high SWR. You can use the antenna on the missing bands with a good tuner, but the efficiency will still be poor due to feedline loss. The only way to get around that would be to operate a tuner remotely at the antenna feedpoint rather than in the shack at the radio.

There are antennas such as the Comet CHA250B vertical that claim to be able to work every HF band, even without radials, but the antenna uses a broadband UNUN to give a decent SWR. Unfortunately, losses in the UNUN and feedline rob a significant portion of the power fed to the antenna. Losses increase at the upper and lower ends of the HF spectrum.

One of these days, I may try building an OCF antenna cut for 30 meters. Although it won't tune perfectly on 15 meters (the two bands are not exact harmonics), it should work a lot better than a OCF cut for 40 meters like I have now.

Ray N9RWC




------ Original Message ------
Received: 01:24 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 
Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z












Re: EURAO Party 30M

Ray Clements
 

Jerry's antenna is an example of one designed specifically to work on 30 meters. Being able to work 17m and 12m is a bonus.

There are a lot of antennas with traps, but few of them are trapped for 30 meters.

Ray N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 03:11 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 

I have a Cushcraft D3 which is a rotatable dipole for 12/17/30m. It works well on 30m, but I would caution folks not to try it on 40m because that will damage traps.

Jerry  n9avy


From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
To work 30 meters well, you need an antenna specifically designed to work 30 meters.

If you have a wide range tuner (I use the MFJ 993B), you can tune nearly anything, but that does not mean the antenna will be efficient. I have a 40 meter OCF antenna and I have used it to work a few stations on 30 meters using the tuner, but performance has not been very good. 

Buckmaster offers an 8 band OCF antenna that will work 8 bands from 160 meters to 6 meters, but 15 meters, 30 meters and 60 meters are noticeably absent from the list. That is because those bands feed into a high-voltage node on the wire causing high SWR. You can use the antenna on the missing bands with a good tuner, but the efficiency will still be poor due to feedline loss. The only way to get around that would be to operate a tuner remotely at the antenna feedpoint rather than in the shack at the radio.

There are antennas such as the Comet CHA250B vertical that claim to be able to work every HF band, even without radials, but the antenna uses a broadband UNUN to give a decent SWR. Unfortunately, losses in the UNUN and feedline rob a significant portion of the power fed to the antenna. Losses increase at the upper and lower ends of the HF spectrum.

One of these days, I may try building an OCF antenna cut for 30 meters. Although it won't tune perfectly on 15 meters (the two bands are not exact harmonics), it should work a lot better than a OCF cut for 40 meters like I have now.

Ray N9RWC




------ Original Message ------
Received: 01:24 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 
Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z










Re: Congrats

Jerry N9AVY
 

Nope, not gonna happen because they don't have french fries, french toast, french's mustard, french dressing ... etc.    :-)


Jerry  N9AVY


From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Congrats

 
And while you are in the neighborhood, how about slipping over to French Guiana?  I just need that one and Guyana for my 13.

Rick - N7WE
070 - 1602



Re: Congrats

Rick - N7WE
 

And while you are in the neighborhood, how about slipping over to French Guiana?  I just need that one and Guyana for my 13.

Rick - N7WE
070 - 1602


Re: Congrats

Jerry N9AVY
 

Yes ... it's rumored that Ted is coming along as well.  


From: "Ted pegduck56@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Congrats

 
rumor is Jerry is planning DXpedition to Peru and Guyana so we can make the SA 13 endorsement...

73, Ted
K7TRK


On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:40 PM, "Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Congrats to Jerry, N9AVY who, after all the carping and whining, managed to get his 2014DX-ARGENTINA with over a week to spare! :-)

73 y'all

Matt King
KK4CPS
070 #1708
070 Club Management Team





Re: EURAO Party 30M

Jerry N9AVY
 

I have a Cushcraft D3 which is a rotatable dipole for 12/17/30m. It works well on 30m, but I would caution folks not to try it on 40m because that will damage traps.

Jerry  n9avy


From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
To work 30 meters well, you need an antenna specifically designed to work 30 meters.

If you have a wide range tuner (I use the MFJ 993B), you can tune nearly anything, but that does not mean the antenna will be efficient. I have a 40 meter OCF antenna and I have used it to work a few stations on 30 meters using the tuner, but performance has not been very good. 

Buckmaster offers an 8 band OCF antenna that will work 8 bands from 160 meters to 6 meters, but 15 meters, 30 meters and 60 meters are noticeably absent from the list. That is because those bands feed into a high-voltage node on the wire causing high SWR. You can use the antenna on the missing bands with a good tuner, but the efficiency will still be poor due to feedline loss. The only way to get around that would be to operate a tuner remotely at the antenna feedpoint rather than in the shack at the radio.

There are antennas such as the Comet CHA250B vertical that claim to be able to work every HF band, even without radials, but the antenna uses a broadband UNUN to give a decent SWR. Unfortunately, losses in the UNUN and feedline rob a significant portion of the power fed to the antenna. Losses increase at the upper and lower ends of the HF spectrum.

One of these days, I may try building an OCF antenna cut for 30 meters. Although it won't tune perfectly on 15 meters (the two bands are not exact harmonics), it should work a lot better than a OCF cut for 40 meters like I have now.

Ray N9RWC




------ Original Message ------
Received: 01:24 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 
Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z








Re: Congrats

Jerry N9AVY
 

Hey, I majored in carping & whining and got a PhD  (Piled Higher & Deeper !) with a minor in wailing & gnashing of teeth !   :-)

But I sincerely appreciate all the help I had from 070 members. 


Jerry  N9AVY


From: "Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:40 PM
Subject: [070] Congrats

 
Congrats to Jerry, N9AVY who, after all the carping and whining, managed to get his 2014DX-ARGENTINA with over a week to spare! :-)

73 y'all

Matt King
KK4CPS
070 #1708
070 Club Management Team



Re: EURAO Party 30M

Ray Clements
 

To work 30 meters well, you need an antenna specifically designed to work 30 meters.

If you have a wide range tuner (I use the MFJ 993B), you can tune nearly anything, but that does not mean the antenna will be efficient. I have a 40 meter OCF antenna and I have used it to work a few stations on 30 meters using the tuner, but performance has not been very good. 

Buckmaster offers an 8 band OCF antenna that will work 8 bands from 160 meters to 6 meters, but 15 meters, 30 meters and 60 meters are noticeably absent from the list. That is because those bands feed into a high-voltage node on the wire causing high SWR. You can use the antenna on the missing bands with a good tuner, but the efficiency will still be poor due to feedline loss. The only way to get around that would be to operate a tuner remotely at the antenna feedpoint rather than in the shack at the radio.

There are antennas such as the Comet CHA250B vertical that claim to be able to work every HF band, even without radials, but the antenna uses a broadband UNUN to give a decent SWR. Unfortunately, losses in the UNUN and feedline rob a significant portion of the power fed to the antenna. Losses increase at the upper and lower ends of the HF spectrum.

One of these days, I may try building an OCF antenna cut for 30 meters. Although it won't tune perfectly on 15 meters (the two bands are not exact harmonics), it should work a lot better than a OCF cut for 40 meters like I have now.

Ray N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 01:24 PM CST, 12/22/2014
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M


 

Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 


starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z






Re: Congrats

Ted <pegduck56@...>
 

rumor is Jerry is planning DXpedition to Peru and Guyana so we can make the SA 13 endorsement...

73, Ted
K7TRK


On Monday, December 22, 2014 12:40 PM, "Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Congrats to Jerry, N9AVY who, after all the carping and whining, managed to get his 2014DX-ARGENTINA with over a week to spare! :-)

73 y'all

Matt King
KK4CPS
070 #1708
070 Club Management Team



Congrats

Matthew King <mrk.twg@...>
 

Congrats to Jerry, N9AVY who, after all the carping and whining, managed to get his 2014DX-ARGENTINA with over a week to spare! :-)

73 y'all

Matt King
KK4CPS
070 #1708
070 Club Management Team


Re: EURAO Party 30M

Ted <pegduck56@...>
 

nope, John. Worked a total of 4 US stations and one of those was JT65. Seemed to be pretty dead both days and nights. I'm not sure the best time for 30M

oh well..

73, Ted
K7TRK


On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:09 AM, "John Bower poppajohnbower@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z




Re: EURAO Party 30M

Joseph Miller <kj8o.ham@...>
 


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?

​My antenna tuner does the best it can, but I end up with an SWR of about 1:1.8. To which Icom​ does not recommend operating their radios with that high of an SWR.   Someday, when I retire and can erect some more antennas.....

73 de Joe KJ8O



Re: EURAO Party 30M

Doc
 

Did find some action last week on 30 in the pM- Mostly a lost cause !1DE Jerry W8KQ

----- Original Message -----
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 

Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 


starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z






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Re: EURAO Party 30M

Bill Garwood
 

Hey y'all,
 
I spent a lot of time over the weekend calling CQ on 30 meters.  Worked 9 stations total, one was PSK63.  Not much PSK31 activity but the band did seem to have a lot of digital activity with other modes.  One pleasant surprise..called CQ and CN8VX came back with a solid 599 from Morocco.  New country for 30 meters.
 
I would think that 30 meters should be open to somewhere just about all of the time.   Not sure why there is not more activity on this band.  No antennas?
 
Happy Radio!
 
Bill N4GBK
 

 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [070] EURAO Party 30M

 
Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 


starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z




Strange

Jerry N9AVY
 

The message I posted about N3KN appeared not to go through; so after 5 minutes I sent another one.  A minute later, they both showed up at same instant.  Wonder if NSA is monitoring me again ?  :-)


Jerry N9AVY






















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Jerry N9AVY
 

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Jerry N9AVY
 

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Re: EURAO Party 30M

John Bower <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Good Morning Ted did you actually see any EURAQ stations _ Looked at 30 several timres over the weekend but it seemed mainly dead in NY.
John
KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Ted pegduck56@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

starts in 15 min or so

I'll be looking for new LONP contacts

73, Ted
K7TRK
23:45z



Re: Welcome Aboard

Bill Garwood
 

Welcome John!  Have fun.
 
73,
 
Bill N4GBK  North Carolina
 

To: 070@...
From: 070@...
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:53:08 -0600
Subject: [070] Welcome Aboard

 
​​​Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s)
 
 1919  KI3T  John
 
73, Jim  W5FER



Welcome Aboard

James Ferris <ferris1727@...>
 

​​​Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s)
 
 1919  KI3T  John
 
73, Jim  W5FER