Date   

Re: TDW Certs

Joseph Miller <kj8o.ham@...>
 

Thank you Bob,

Speaking as the Secretary of the Oakland County Amateur Radio Society W8TNO
#1520, I will proudly show that to the membership at our next meeting.

VY 73 es mny tnx de Joe KJ8O 1244




On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@comcast.net> wrote:

**


My sincere apologies to the certificate winners from the TDW this past May.
I thought I had mailed them out and while cleaning my desk I found the
envelopes. I am going to the post office now. Again I am very sorry but as
they say better late than never J

73,

Bob N3PPH

070 - 853

TDW Boss





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TDW Certs

Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...>
 

My sincere apologies to the certificate winners from the TDW this past May.
I thought I had mailed them out and while cleaning my desk I found the
envelopes. I am going to the post office now. Again I am very sorry but as
they say better late than never J





73,

Bob N3PPH

070 - 853

TDW Boss


Re: W3HF/KH6

Steve W3HF
 

Enzo -

I will look for you.

Steve
W3HF/KH6

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Enzo ik8jku" <ik8jku@...> wrote:

South Italy present ......................
73 de Enzo ik8jku

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: [070] Re: W3HF/KH6



Ted -

My antenna can do 10-40. (I made QSOs on 10-20 on VQ9, and I know I've done 30 and 40 before.) I was planning to start on 20 just because the Clublog statistics showed it as being the best band (in general) to the mainland at that time, but I'll move to other bands if things get slow or if I'm having difficulty making QSOs.

Steve

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, pegduck56 wrote:
>
> Steve, can you do 15?
> Â
> Ted
> K7TRK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: melachri
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM
> Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6
>
>
> Â
>
> (I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)
>
> My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air.
>
> Steve
> W3HF/KH6
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Welcome new member

J Budzowski <jbudzowski@...>
 

Pse welcome new 070 Club member Red KJ4RKB #1642...73 de Jay N3DQU


Re: W3HF/KH6

Enzo ik8jku <ik8jku@...>
 

South Italy present ......................
73 de Enzo ik8jku

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: [070] Re: W3HF/KH6



Ted -

My antenna can do 10-40. (I made QSOs on 10-20 on VQ9, and I know I've done 30 and 40 before.) I was planning to start on 20 just because the Clublog statistics showed it as being the best band (in general) to the mainland at that time, but I'll move to other bands if things get slow or if I'm having difficulty making QSOs.

Steve

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, pegduck56 wrote:
>
> Steve, can you do 15?
> Â
> Ted
> K7TRK
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: melachri
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM
> Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6
>
>
> Â
>
> (I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)
>
> My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air.
>
> Steve
> W3HF/KH6
>
>
>
>
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Re: W3HF/KH6

Steve W3HF
 

Ted -

My antenna can do 10-40. (I made QSOs on 10-20 on VQ9, and I know I've done 30 and 40 before.) I was planning to start on 20 just because the Clublog statistics showed it as being the best band (in general) to the mainland at that time, but I'll move to other bands if things get slow or if I'm having difficulty making QSOs.

Steve

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, pegduck56 <pegduck56@...> wrote:

Steve, can you do 15?
 
Ted
K7TRK


________________________________
From: melachri <w3hf@...>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6


 

(I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)

My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air.

Steve
W3HF/KH6






Re: W3HF/KH6

pegduck56 <pegduck56@...>
 

Steve, can you do 15?
 
Ted
K7TRK


________________________________
From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6


 

(I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)

My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air.

Steve
W3HF/KH6


W3HF/KH6

Steve W3HF
 

(I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)

My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air.

Steve
W3HF/KH6


W3HF/KH6

Steve W3HF
 

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "melachri" <w3hf@...> wrote:

Ted guessed it. We arrived in Honolulu a few hours ago.

As before, I have work to do that will limit operating time. And more significantly, my wife came along on this trip--"compensation" for all the time I spent away from home last year.

Station complement is my usual portable--FT817 and AD5X vertical. (And 80 and 160 are out of the question as the antenna won't load that low.)

Peggy will be here until next Tuesday, so I don't really expect to get on the air until after then. I'll try to post when I'm going out.

73 and aloha,
Steve
W3HF/KH6

P.S. If there are any members on Oahu who would be available for an eyeball, let me know. Maybe we can work something out.


Re: RTTY EXchanges

Jerry N9AVY
 

Contesting is all about keeping up the Q rate (number of contacts per hour). Contest stations have to decide whether spending time in a pile up is worth it or not.  In a big pile up, time spent will result in a lower Q rate; so, I think they will avoid pile ups to some extent unless they have a "killer" signal !

My past experience in contesting has been that running a frequency can be more profitable as long as you can hold the frequency.  It will produce lots of little stations who hear you but aren't seriously contesting. When the frequency dries up that's the time to S&P for a while.  You may find it works in some combination of both.  If your logging program has Q rate and that number gets high, that's where you want to be and keep it from falling. 

  Sometimes you'll be running a frequency and the DX will just show up out of the blue !  After all is said and done, you need to find the method which works best for you.

Lots of good comments from this thread !

Jerry  N9AVY

--- On Mon, 2/25/13, David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 8:09 AM

so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic
for stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots
you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have
a MUCH easier time getting through to them.

I've found that most of time, the DX is workable (even when spotted) from a
little station with two key factors in our favor:
  * the pileups change fast  (i think part of it is that people aren't
going to "wait in line" for a long time, and qsy to pick up other Q's;
other part is the exchange format/tempo; and also usually good ops on the
DX side)
  * you know (assume) the DX is camped out there for a while
A bunch of times I've tried to get one, and it's either been a slew of
callers, or crappy cndx ... and just come back 5/10/15 min later and then
got him easy.

It also is easier mid-to-late in the contest, especially for the 48-hr ones
...  In the first part of the contest, everyone needs everyone, so S/P'ing
the DX is much harder.

--david
kj4izw


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Daniel Severance <
daniel_severance@yahoo.com> wrote:

**


Good points David -

I would point out that 10M and 20M are a bigger (digi) bands so even a
small station can generally find a "run" frequency to call CQ - other bands
where it's more crowded it's definitely trickier.  NAQP RTTY is a 100W USA
contest where there are fewer hams and are they more even (power) which
makes running easier, but in big RTTY contests where worldwide stations are
calling with full power, a 100W station has little chance to run EXCEPT on
those bands with wider DIGI bands.  It's still worth while going way up
high in those bands to find a spot and try running - you'd be surprised!

I started contesting just as a way to collect DX, not to score points, so
then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic for
stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you
can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a
MUCH easier time getting through to them.  It takes time so not a great way
to get a big score (unless you have a rig with two receivers - you can call
CQ and then tune the second receiver through the band then jump and work
them and jump back to the run frequency.

73
Dan
N6ERD

________________________________
From: David Westbrook dwestbrook@gmail.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges


Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet
of the hobby i first started with ...  It's a different ballgame than psk
(esp the causual 070) contests! :)

Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce)  ... No "right" answer because
it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station
....

In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and
hard to keep it ....  If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like
me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ...  For me, I consider 5
back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just
racking them up in a steady stream.

When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun
getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard"
exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of
it being about tempo...
So a good rate is important for scoring ...

.. but so are multipliers ...  and need to tune around for mults sometimes
...  Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of
needed mults.
   ==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can
broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed
stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ
freq.

Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed
states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and
S/P them;    I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if
just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in
a "real" effort due to time constraints.

Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to
balance ...  Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty
good rate as a low power station ...    Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing,
time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ...

There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also
S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ...  I can't work the wanted guy there cause
it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find
a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ...
Obviously some luck needed, but can work.

And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you
CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously!

===>>>> But definitely try both!!  They're fun in different ways, and also
are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ...

73
--david
KJ4IZW

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote:

**


Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and
form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at
rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not
have
stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between
me
and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and
send cq s or slide the band?




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Re: RTTY EXchanges

David Westbrook
 

so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic
for stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots
you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have
a MUCH easier time getting through to them.

I've found that most of time, the DX is workable (even when spotted) from a
little station with two key factors in our favor:
* the pileups change fast (i think part of it is that people aren't
going to "wait in line" for a long time, and qsy to pick up other Q's;
other part is the exchange format/tempo; and also usually good ops on the
DX side)
* you know (assume) the DX is camped out there for a while
A bunch of times I've tried to get one, and it's either been a slew of
callers, or crappy cndx ... and just come back 5/10/15 min later and then
got him easy.

It also is easier mid-to-late in the contest, especially for the 48-hr ones
... In the first part of the contest, everyone needs everyone, so S/P'ing
the DX is much harder.

--david
kj4izw


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Daniel Severance <
daniel_severance@yahoo.com> wrote:

**


Good points David -

I would point out that 10M and 20M are a bigger (digi) bands so even a
small station can generally find a "run" frequency to call CQ - other bands
where it's more crowded it's definitely trickier. NAQP RTTY is a 100W USA
contest where there are fewer hams and are they more even (power) which
makes running easier, but in big RTTY contests where worldwide stations are
calling with full power, a 100W station has little chance to run EXCEPT on
those bands with wider DIGI bands. It's still worth while going way up
high in those bands to find a spot and try running - you'd be surprised!

I started contesting just as a way to collect DX, not to score points, so
then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic for
stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you
can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a
MUCH easier time getting through to them. It takes time so not a great way
to get a big score (unless you have a rig with two receivers - you can call
CQ and then tune the second receiver through the band then jump and work
them and jump back to the run frequency.

73
Dan
N6ERD

________________________________
From: David Westbrook dwestbrook@gmail.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges


Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet
of the hobby i first started with ... It's a different ballgame than psk
(esp the causual 070) contests! :)

Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce) ... No "right" answer because
it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station
....

In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and
hard to keep it .... If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like
me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ... For me, I consider 5
back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just
racking them up in a steady stream.

When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun
getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard"
exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of
it being about tempo...
So a good rate is important for scoring ...

.. but so are multipliers ... and need to tune around for mults sometimes
... Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of
needed mults.
==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can
broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed
stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ
freq.

Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed
states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and
S/P them; I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if
just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in
a "real" effort due to time constraints.

Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to
balance ... Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty
good rate as a low power station ... Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing,
time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ...

There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also
S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ... I can't work the wanted guy there cause
it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find
a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ...
Obviously some luck needed, but can work.

And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you
CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously!

===>>>> But definitely try both!! They're fun in different ways, and also
are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ...

73
--david
KJ4IZW

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote:

**


Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and
form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at
rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not
have
stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between
me
and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and
send cq s or slide the band?




------------------------------------


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latest information on 070 Club activities.

Yahoo! Groups Links


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: RTTY EXchanges

Daniel Severance
 

Good points David - 

I would point out that 10M and 20M are a bigger (digi) bands so even a small station can generally find a "run" frequency to call CQ - other bands where it's more crowded it's definitely trickier.  NAQP RTTY is a 100W USA contest where there are fewer hams and are they more even (power) which makes running easier, but in big RTTY contests where worldwide stations are calling with full power, a 100W station has little chance to run EXCEPT on those bands with wider DIGI bands.  It's still worth while going way up high in those bands to find a spot and try running - you'd be surprised!

I started contesting just as a way to collect DX, not to score points, so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic for stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a MUCH easier time getting through to them.  It takes time so not a great way to get a big score (unless you have a rig with two receivers - you can call CQ and then tune the second receiver through the band then jump and work them and jump back to the run frequency.

73
Dan
N6ERD




________________________________
From: David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges

Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet
of the hobby i first started with ...  It's a different ballgame than psk
(esp the causual 070) contests! :)

Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce)  ... No "right" answer because
it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station
....


In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and
hard to keep it ....  If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like
me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ...  For me, I consider 5
back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just
racking them up in a steady stream.

When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun
getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard"
exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of
it being about tempo...
So a good rate is important for scoring ...

.. but so are multipliers ...  and need to tune around for mults sometimes
...  Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of
needed mults.
  ==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can
broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed
stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ
freq.

Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed
states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and
S/P them;    I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if
just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in
a "real" effort due to time constraints.

Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to
balance ...  Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty
good rate as a low power station ...    Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing,
time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ...

There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also
S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ...  I can't work the wanted guy there cause
it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find
a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ...
Obviously some luck needed, but can work.

And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you
CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously!


===>>>> But definitely try both!!  They're fun in different ways, and also
are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ...

73
--david
KJ4IZW


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote:

**


Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and
form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at
rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have
stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me
and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and
send cq s or slide the band?

 





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Yahoo! Groups Links


Thanks

Larry
 

Thanks folks for the grid location help!


Re: RTTY EXchanges

David Westbrook
 

Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet
of the hobby i first started with ... It's a different ballgame than psk
(esp the causual 070) contests! :)

Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce) ... No "right" answer because
it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station
....


In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and
hard to keep it .... If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like
me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ... For me, I consider 5
back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just
racking them up in a steady stream.

When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun
getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard"
exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of
it being about tempo...
So a good rate is important for scoring ...

.. but so are multipliers ... and need to tune around for mults sometimes
... Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of
needed mults.
==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can
broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed
stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ
freq.

Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed
states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and
S/P them; I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if
just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in
a "real" effort due to time constraints.

Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to
balance ... Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty
good rate as a low power station ... Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing,
time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ...

There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also
S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ... I can't work the wanted guy there cause
it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find
a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ...
Obviously some luck needed, but can work.

And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you
CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously!


===>>>> But definitely try both!! They're fun in different ways, and also
are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ...

73
--david
KJ4IZW


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and
form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at
rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have
stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me
and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and
send cq s or slide the band?



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Re: RTTY EXchanges

Daniel Severance
 

That's a question that is difficult to answer.  NAQP RTTY is a unique contest where any use of spotting requires you to be registered as multi-op, not good if you are just operating on your own!

Now, given that you are working the contest without spotting, you need to TRY to run, but if no one is coming back to you then scanning the band at LEAST for mults is critical. keeping exchanges short is critical for running, if I come across someone runnning and their exchanges are really long (and many are calling) I may move on, whereas if they are working quickly and efficiently, I may stick around to work them as it won't take me too long.

Did the contest yesterday - tried a number of runs which were good and then died.  Still better to have tried and lost!  Actually had a big run on 80M near the end of the contest!

73,
Dan
N6ERD


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From: RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:30 PM
Subject: [070] RTTY EXchang


 
Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?




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VK on 30M

Bill Williams
 

Craig, VK5CE calling CQ with no takers on 30M 10.1412. Time now is 2215.

Bill
AG4QX
#398


Re: RTTY EXchanges

boat.anchor <boat.anchor@...>
 

Sometimes you want to be the hunter and sometimes you want to be the bait. Mix it up and enjoy both.
Barry
VA7GEM 1470

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "RobertJ" <shopr3@...> wrote:

Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?


Re: RTTY EXchanges

Jerry N9AVY
 

My suggestion would be to "run" a frequency (call CQ) and  also do some "search & pounce" (spin the dial) to pick up those stations which run frequencies and don't search & pounce. I've used this method in past and it seems to work well.

Jerry N9AVY

--- On Sun, 2/24/13, RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com>
Subject: [070] RTTY EXchanges
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 11:30 AM
















 









Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all.

NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?


RTTY EXchanges

Robert Johnstone
 

Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?


Re: Welcome new member

ljl2002@att.net
 

Hey Dan,
 
Many tnx fer the QSO and welcome to the club.
 
Lots o' fun lives here.
 
73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482

--- On Sun, 2/24/13, J Budzowski <jbudzowski@verizon.net> wrote:


From: J Budzowski <jbudzowski@verizon.net>
Subject: [070] Welcome new member
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 8:48 AM


   Pse welcome new 070 Club member Dan AE7IH #1641...73 de Jay N3DQU


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