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Re: TDW Certs
Joseph Miller <kj8o.ham@...>
Thank you Bob,
Speaking as the Secretary of the Oakland County Amateur Radio Society W8TNO #1520, I will proudly show that to the membership at our next meeting. VY 73 es mny tnx de Joe KJ8O 1244 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@comcast.net> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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TDW Certs
Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...>
My sincere apologies to the certificate winners from the TDW this past May.
I thought I had mailed them out and while cleaning my desk I found the envelopes. I am going to the post office now. Again I am very sorry but as they say better late than never J 73, Bob N3PPH 070 - 853 TDW Boss
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Re: W3HF/KH6
Steve W3HF
Enzo -
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I will look for you. Steve W3HF/KH6
--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Enzo ik8jku" <ik8jku@...> wrote:
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Welcome new member
J Budzowski <jbudzowski@...>
Pse welcome new 070 Club member Red KJ4RKB #1642...73 de Jay N3DQU
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Re: W3HF/KH6
Enzo ik8jku <ik8jku@...>
South Italy present ......................
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73 de Enzo ik8jku
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From: melachri To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:17 AM Subject: [070] Re: W3HF/KH6 Ted - My antenna can do 10-40. (I made QSOs on 10-20 on VQ9, and I know I've done 30 and 40 before.) I was planning to start on 20 just because the Clublog statistics showed it as being the best band (in general) to the mainland at that time, but I'll move to other bands if things get slow or if I'm having difficulty making QSOs. Steve --- In 070@yahoogroups.com, pegduck56 wrote: > > Steve, can you do 15? > Â > Ted > K7TRK > > > ________________________________ > From: melachri > To: 070@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM > Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6 > > > Â > > (I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.) > > My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air. > > Steve > W3HF/KH6 > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.2899 / Database dei virus: 2641/6134 - Data di rilascio: 26/02/2013
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Re: W3HF/KH6
Steve W3HF
Ted -
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My antenna can do 10-40. (I made QSOs on 10-20 on VQ9, and I know I've done 30 and 40 before.) I was planning to start on 20 just because the Clublog statistics showed it as being the best band (in general) to the mainland at that time, but I'll move to other bands if things get slow or if I'm having difficulty making QSOs. Steve
--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, pegduck56 <pegduck56@...> wrote:
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Re: W3HF/KH6
pegduck56 <pegduck56@...>
Steve, can you do 15?
Ted K7TRK ________________________________ From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net> To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [070] W3HF/KH6 (I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.) My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air. Steve W3HF/KH6
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W3HF/KH6
Steve W3HF
(I keep getting messed up by the YahooGroups web page--when a CR posts a message and when it just ends a line. Sorry.)
My wife is leaving tomorrow night and I'm here for a few more days, so pending any catastrophes at work I should have a little time to play radio. My hope is to be done with work by 3p local on Wednesday and Thursday (0100z Thursday and Friday). According to the statistics at ClubLog, 0100-0300z looks to be prime time for 20m QSOs with the US mainland. I've checked out a couple of locations that are within about 30 minutes drive from my work site, so I can get on the air quickly. K6MKF has agreed to post to the reflector when I get on the air. Steve W3HF/KH6
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W3HF/KH6
Steve W3HF
--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "melachri" <w3hf@...> wrote:
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
Contesting is all about keeping up the Q rate (number of contacts per hour). Contest stations have to decide whether spending time in a pile up is worth it or not. In a big pile up, time spent will result in a lower Q rate; so, I think they will avoid pile ups to some extent unless they have a "killer" signal !
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My past experience in contesting has been that running a frequency can be more profitable as long as you can hold the frequency. It will produce lots of little stations who hear you but aren't seriously contesting. When the frequency dries up that's the time to S&P for a while. You may find it works in some combination of both. If your logging program has Q rate and that number gets high, that's where you want to be and keep it from falling. Sometimes you'll be running a frequency and the DX will just show up out of the blue ! After all is said and done, you need to find the method which works best for you. Lots of good comments from this thread ! Jerry N9AVY
--- On Mon, 2/25/13, David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com> wrote:
From: David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges To: 070@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 25, 2013, 8:09 AM so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematicfor stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a MUCH easier time getting through to them. I've found that most of time, the DX is workable (even when spotted) from a little station with two key factors in our favor: * the pileups change fast (i think part of it is that people aren't going to "wait in line" for a long time, and qsy to pick up other Q's; other part is the exchange format/tempo; and also usually good ops on the DX side) * you know (assume) the DX is camped out there for a while A bunch of times I've tried to get one, and it's either been a slew of callers, or crappy cndx ... and just come back 5/10/15 min later and then got him easy. It also is easier mid-to-late in the contest, especially for the 48-hr ones ... In the first part of the contest, everyone needs everyone, so S/P'ing the DX is much harder. --david kj4izw On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Daniel Severance < daniel_severance@yahoo.com> wrote: ** ------------------------------------ Check out the 070 Club website at <http://www.podxs070.com/> for the latest information on 070 Club activities. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
David Westbrook
so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematicfor stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a MUCH easier time getting through to them. I've found that most of time, the DX is workable (even when spotted) from a little station with two key factors in our favor: * the pileups change fast (i think part of it is that people aren't going to "wait in line" for a long time, and qsy to pick up other Q's; other part is the exchange format/tempo; and also usually good ops on the DX side) * you know (assume) the DX is camped out there for a while A bunch of times I've tried to get one, and it's either been a slew of callers, or crappy cndx ... and just come back 5/10/15 min later and then got him easy. It also is easier mid-to-late in the contest, especially for the 48-hr ones ... In the first part of the contest, everyone needs everyone, so S/P'ing the DX is much harder. --david kj4izw On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Daniel Severance < daniel_severance@yahoo.com> wrote: **
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
Daniel Severance
Good points David -
I would point out that 10M and 20M are a bigger (digi) bands so even a small station can generally find a "run" frequency to call CQ - other bands where it's more crowded it's definitely trickier. NAQP RTTY is a 100W USA contest where there are fewer hams and are they more even (power) which makes running easier, but in big RTTY contests where worldwide stations are calling with full power, a 100W station has little chance to run EXCEPT on those bands with wider DIGI bands. It's still worth while going way up high in those bands to find a spot and try running - you'd be surprised! I started contesting just as a way to collect DX, not to score points, so then S&P chasing spots gets you the DX you want (can be problematic for stations all want to work) - tuning the band after hitting the spots you can will yield some DX you need but hasn't been spotted yet so you have a MUCH easier time getting through to them. It takes time so not a great way to get a big score (unless you have a rig with two receivers - you can call CQ and then tune the second receiver through the band then jump and work them and jump back to the run frequency. 73 Dan N6ERD ________________________________ From: David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com> To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [070] RTTY EXchanges Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet of the hobby i first started with ... It's a different ballgame than psk (esp the causual 070) contests! :) Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce) ... No "right" answer because it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station .... In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and hard to keep it .... If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ... For me, I consider 5 back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just racking them up in a steady stream. When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard" exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of it being about tempo... So a good rate is important for scoring ... .. but so are multipliers ... and need to tune around for mults sometimes ... Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of needed mults. ==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ freq. Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and S/P them; I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in a "real" effort due to time constraints. Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to balance ... Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty good rate as a low power station ... Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing, time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ... There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ... I can't work the wanted guy there cause it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ... Obviously some luck needed, but can work. And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously! ===>>>> But definitely try both!! They're fun in different ways, and also are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ... 73 --david KJ4IZW On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote: ** ------------------------------------ Check out the 070 Club website at <http://www.podxs070.com/> for the latest information on 070 Club activities. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Thanks
Larry
Thanks folks for the grid location help!
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
David Westbrook
Glad to hear you had fun diving into a rtty contest -- that was the facet
of the hobby i first started with ... It's a different ballgame than psk (esp the causual 070) contests! :) Some thoughts on CQ vs S/P (Search & Pounce) ... No "right" answer because it depends a lot on your goals for that specific contest and your station .... In big rtty contests, it can be hard first to find a clear(ish) gap, and hard to keep it .... If you're a modest no-beam, no-amp station (like me!), it's tough to hold the run freq ... For me, I consider 5 back-to-back Q's when CQ'ing a big success! For the big guys, they're just racking them up in a steady stream. When you do run (CQ), it has the potential for a good rate ... And it's fun getting a big string where you never CQ! This is where the "standard" exchange format (discussed in previous threads) comes into play, a lot of it being about tempo... So a good rate is important for scoring ... .. but so are multipliers ... and need to tune around for mults sometimes ... Or if working in a assisted category, need to go pounce on spots of needed mults. ==> A big difference in RTTY vs PSK, is that CQ'ing in PSK, you can broad-band decode the while passband and keep an eye out for needed stations ... and jump to their offset real quick, and then back to your CQ freq. Your goal may not be a score in a contest -- if it's to pick up needed states/dxcc/grids/whatever, then you'll want to cherry-pick those spots and S/P them; I've done that almost exclusively in some contests, esp if just hopping on the air for a very short amount of time, and not putting in a "real" effort due to time constraints. Just like when to switch bands, switching between CQ & S/P is tricky to balance ... Sometimes with the wall-to-wall rtty you can S/P at a pretty good rate as a low power station ... Or if CQ'ing and getting nothing, time to try another spot or band or just go S/P some ... There's been times (RTTY) where i'm S/P'ing and see a needed station also S/P'ing, and he answers a CQ ... I can't work the wanted guy there cause it's not his freq .... You can guess that he's tuning up or down, and find a hole close by, and start CQ'ing, and hope he tunes into you next ... Obviously some luck needed, but can work. And then SO2R (single-op-two-radio) is a whole other discussion, where you CQ and S/P [sort of] simultaneously! ===>>>> But definitely try both!! They're fun in different ways, and also are different skills, and that's one of the purposes of contesting ... 73 --david KJ4IZW On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:30 PM, RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
Daniel Severance
That's a question that is difficult to answer. NAQP RTTY is a unique contest where any use of spotting requires you to be registered as multi-op, not good if you are just operating on your own!
Now, given that you are working the contest without spotting, you need to TRY to run, but if no one is coming back to you then scanning the band at LEAST for mults is critical. keeping exchanges short is critical for running, if I come across someone runnning and their exchanges are really long (and many are calling) I may move on, whereas if they are working quickly and efficiently, I may stick around to work them as it won't take me too long. Did the contest yesterday - tried a number of runs which were good and then died. Still better to have tried and lost! Actually had a big run on 80M near the end of the contest! 73, Dan N6ERD ________________________________ From: RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: [070] RTTY EXchang Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all. NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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VK on 30M
Craig, VK5CE calling CQ with no takers on 30M 10.1412. Time now is 2215.
Bill AG4QX #398
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
boat.anchor <boat.anchor@...>
Sometimes you want to be the hunter and sometimes you want to be the bait. Mix it up and enjoy both.
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Re: RTTY EXchanges
My suggestion would be to "run" a frequency (call CQ) and also do some "search & pounce" (spin the dial) to pick up those stations which run frequencies and don't search & pounce. I've used this method in past and it seems to work well.
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Jerry N9AVY
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From: RobertJ <shopr3@yahoo.com> Subject: [070] RTTY EXchanges To: 070@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 11:30 AM Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all. NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?
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RTTY EXchanges
Robert Johnstone
Armed with the suggestions obtained on earlier posts about brevity and form I jumped into the naqp rtty contest yesterday. My First attempt at rtty. Without the help provided by Joe and several others, I would not have stood a chance. Managed 67(raw count)on 15,20,40,80 with storm Q between me and east coast. Thanks to all.
NEW Question for the forum DO you think it is better to pick a gap and send cq s or slide the band?
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Re: Welcome new member
ljl2002@att.net
Hey Dan,
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Many tnx fer the QSO and welcome to the club. Lots o' fun lives here. 73 Joe KA1PPV #1482
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From: J Budzowski <jbudzowski@verizon.net> Subject: [070] Welcome new member To: 070@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 8:48 AM Pse welcome new 070 Club member Dan AE7IH #1641...73 de Jay N3DQU ------------------------------------ Check out the 070 Club website at <http://www.podxs070.com/> for the latest information on 070 Club activities. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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