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Re: Not too long to go!

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Milt
Next BIG thing,....what time 00:01UTC?
Paul, nu4c





________________________________
From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, June 30, 2012 8:54:23 AM
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!


Mike,
20m is open to JA.
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Not too long to go!

That may be, Joe – they do bark in German … ;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG>
W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund
Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ljl2002@att.net
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:27 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!

Mike,

No. I don't think that is quite correct.

According to my Dachsundia Dictionary the Human words,"Pierre Fatou", translates
out to "Do you want to go to the park"? Also in Retreiverese it means, "Do you
want a treat"? I know this because my dog is way smarter than I.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com
<mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 1:02 AM

My four Dachshunds think that's a great idea, Milt. They all bark whenever I
mention Pierre Fatou.


-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@verizon.net
<mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more
challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!

Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award
anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary
preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of
the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca
<mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> > wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca <mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> >
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> , "ljl2002@..."
<joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
Â
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



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Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense,
I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.

Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very
"do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like
a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get
down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in
each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares
containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric
shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this
number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in
an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the
little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares
probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement?
That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF,
<http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC,
<http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@...
<mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com>
<mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@...
<mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com>
<mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the
earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more
or less.


-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@...
<mailto:n6mg@...%20%3cmailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> >
wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes
all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline.
I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@...
<mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
<mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@...
<mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
<mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.

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Not too long to go!

 

Mike,
20m is open to JA.
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Not too long to go!



That may be, Joe – they do bark in German … ;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@att.net
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:27 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!

Mike,

No. I don't think that is quite correct.

According to my Dachsundia Dictionary the Human words,"Pierre Fatou", translates out to "Do you want to go to the park"? Also in Retreiverese it means, "Do you want a treat"? I know this because my dog is way smarter than I.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 1:02 AM

My four Dachshunds think that's a great idea, Milt. They all bark whenever I mention Pierre Fatou.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@verizon.net <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

> My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
> Any takers?
> Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
> N6MG
> 070-650
> LONP #76
> WOTMC Log Checker
> "???" Boss
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ljl2002@att.net <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
>
> Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......
>
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV # 1482
>
> --- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca <mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> > wrote:
>
> From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca <mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> >
> Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM
>
> Joe
> SRI I only eat brown rice.
> Barry
>
> --- In 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> , "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:
> >
> > We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
> > Â
> > Joe
> > KA1PPV #1482
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
> > Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
> > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
> > Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
> > Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
> > Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
> > Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
> > Milt.
> > N6MG
> > 070-650
> > LONP #76
> > WOTMC Log Checker
> > "???" Boss
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Flowers
> > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
> > Subject: RE: [070] not long to go
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:
> >
> > (324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.
> >
> > This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.
> >
> > The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!
> >
> > ;>)
> >
> > - 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui
> >
> > From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
> > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
> > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
> >
> > That's really big Mike.
> >
> > Joe
> > KA1PPV #1482
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
> > Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
> > To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM
> >
> > Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.
> >
> > -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
> > From my iPhone4
> >
> > On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg@...%20%3cmailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:
> >
> > > Guys,
> > > Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
> > > Milt.
> > > N6MG
> > > 070-650
> > > LONP #76
> > > WOTMC Log Checker
> > > "???" Boss
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
> > > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
> > >
> > > Ivor,
> > >
> > > No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .
> > >
> > > Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.
> > >
> > > Toungue really in cheek!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > KA1PPV #1482
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
> > > Subject: [070] not long to go
> > > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM
> > >
> > > m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
> > > hi pskers.
> > > not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
> > > will the u.k and Europe know first????
> > > I say this because of the time differents.
> > > it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
> > > so will members how live in this part of the
> > > world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
> > > tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.
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Re: Not too long to go!

Mike Flowers
 

That may be, Joe – they do bark in German … ;>)



- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui



From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@att.net
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 3:27 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!





Mike,

No. I don't think that is quite correct.

According to my Dachsundia Dictionary the Human words,"Pierre Fatou", translates out to "Do you want to go to the park"? Also in Retreiverese it means, "Do you want a treat"? I know this because my dog is way smarter than I.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 1:02 AM



My four Dachshunds think that's a great idea, Milt. They all bark whenever I mention Pierre Fatou.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@verizon.net <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!

Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca <mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> > wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca <mailto:boat.anchor%40yahoo.ca> >
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> , "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
Â
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



Â



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers@...%20%3cmailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg@...%20%3cmailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply@...%20%3cmailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.









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Re: Not too long to go!

ljl2002@att.net
 

Milt,
 
Congrats to Keli on her degree!  That was quite an accomplishment. I'll bet the other dogs wish that they had applied themselves like that.
 
Lucky for me Ginger decided to major in Ionspheric Propagation.  She lets me know when the best times are to turn on the rig.
 
One bark - Forget about it. Let's go to the beach.
 
Two barks - Give it up. Let's go to the beach
and three barks - Let's go to the beach, RIGHT NOW because there is a Geo storm in progress and the HF up to 30 stinks.
 
That way I know when not to waste my time chasing non-existant DX.  She is so smart!
 
Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 12:33 AM



 



My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!

Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
Â
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



Â



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.

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Re: Not too long to go!

ljl2002@att.net
 

Mike,
 
No. I don't think that is quite correct.
 
According to my Dachsundia Dictionary the Human words,"Pierre Fatou", translates out to "Do you want to go to the park"? Also in Retreiverese it means, "Do you want a treat"? I know this because my dog is way smarter than I.
 
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: "070@yahoogroups.com" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 1:02 AM



 



My four Dachshunds think that's a great idea, Milt. They all bark whenever I mention Pierre Fatou.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@verizon.net> wrote:

My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!

Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
Â
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



Â



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.

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Re: Not too long to go!

ljl2002@att.net
 

Rick,
 
Ok.
How bout 5Band DXCC with Maidenhead Endorsements. HI HI HI
 
Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Sat, 6/30/12, Rick Scott <w7psk@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rick Scott <w7psk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 30, 2012, 1:00 AM



 




Im betting

5 band WAS

and

5 band DXCC








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Re: Not too long to go!

 

m5ply@blueyonder.co.uk
hi pskers.
not long now. 13 hours by my clock.
have fun when it arrives
73 ivor/m5ply/0292

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Scott
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!




Im betting

5 band WAS

and

5 band DXCC


Re: not long to go

Mike Flowers
 

Yes, you are most correct. That's what comes from too much reliance on Wikipedia ... ;>)

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:50 PM, "melachri" <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

Mike -

Nice analysis. But I have one quibble.

Each sub-square, such as EL29hk is equal to 5 nautical miles by 2.5
nautical miles.
Did you intend this as an approximation, becuase that's not the way sub-squares are defined. They're based on latitude and longitude, not absolute distance. A sub-square is 2.5' (minutes) tall and 5' (minutes) wide. The height (in miles) of every square is the same because latitude lines are equi-spaced. But longitude lines converge at the poles. So at the equator, a sub-square is about 2.9 (statute) miles tall and 5.8 miles wide, but at 45 deg latitude, it's only 4.07 miles wide, and at the poles it's an isoceles triangle with height (still) 2.9 miles but with a width at the base of only 22 feet!

I think a better average width is 3.67 miles. (Derivation: Circumference is proportional to the cosign of latitude. Find the average circumference by integrating COS across latitudes from 0 to 90, resulting in (2/PI)*width at equator.) With a height of 2.9 miles, the average sub-square has an area of 10.575 sq miles, about 36% lower than your number. This scales your population density proportionately: 1216 people per sub-square, and 1.79 hams per sub-square.

Steve
W3HF


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Re: Not too long to go!

Mike Flowers
 

My four Dachshunds think that's a great idea, Milt. They all bark whenever I mention Pierre Fatou.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:33 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@verizon.net> wrote:

My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!

Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
Â
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



Â



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.









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Re: Not too long to go!

Scotty W7PSK
 

Im betting

5 band WAS

and

5 band DXCC


Not too long to go!

 

My Border Collie just asked me to change the topic to something a little more challenging. Her idea is fractal geometry.
Any takers?
Milt. <-- Owned by the wonder dawg Keli Marie.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Not too long to go!




Where the heck is this thread going?? I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences. I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe. Zzzzzzzz.......


Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM



Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:
>
> We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
> Â
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
> --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
> Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
> Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
> Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
> Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
> Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
> Milt.
> N6MG
> 070-650
> LONP #76
> WOTMC Log Checker
> "???" Boss
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Flowers
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [070] not long to go
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:
>
> (324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.
>
> This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.
>
> The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!
>
> ;>)
>
> - 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui
>
> From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
> To: 070@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
>
> That's really big Mike.
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
> --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
> Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
> To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM
>
> Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.
>
> -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
> From my iPhone4
>
> On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:
>
> > Guys,
> > Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
> > Milt.
> > N6MG
> > 070-650
> > LONP #76
> > WOTMC Log Checker
> > "???" Boss
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
> > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
> >
> > Ivor,
> >
> > No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .
> >
> > Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.
> >
> > Toungue really in cheek!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Joe
> > KA1PPV #1482
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:
> >
> > From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
> > Subject: [070] not long to go
> > To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM
> >
> > m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
> > hi pskers.
> > not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
> > will the u.k and Europe know first????
> > I say this because of the time differents.
> > it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
> > so will members how live in this part of the
> > world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
> > tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.
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Re: Not too long to go!

ljl2002@att.net
 

Where the heck is this thread going??  I think it all started with award anticipation then on to a science class then a discussion of culinary preferences.  I think that it should continue with a discussion of the origin of the Universe.  Zzzzzzzz.......
 
 
Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca> wrote:


From: boat.anchor <boat.anchor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: [070] Re: Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:10 PM



 



Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



 



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.



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Re: not long to go

boat.anchor <boat.anchor@...>
 

Now my head hurts
Barry
VA7GEM

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "melachri" <w3hf@...> wrote:

Mike -

Nice analysis. But I have one quibble.

Each sub-square, such as EL29hk is equal to 5 nautical miles by 2.5
nautical miles.
Did you intend this as an approximation, becuase that's not the way sub-squares are defined. They're based on latitude and longitude, not absolute distance. A sub-square is 2.5' (minutes) tall and 5' (minutes) wide. The height (in miles) of every square is the same because latitude lines are equi-spaced. But longitude lines converge at the poles. So at the equator, a sub-square is about 2.9 (statute) miles tall and 5.8 miles wide, but at 45 deg latitude, it's only 4.07 miles wide, and at the poles it's an isoceles triangle with height (still) 2.9 miles but with a width at the base of only 22 feet!

I think a better average width is 3.67 miles. (Derivation: Circumference is proportional to the cosign of latitude. Find the average circumference by integrating COS across latitudes from 0 to 90, resulting in (2/PI)*width at equator.) With a height of 2.9 miles, the average sub-square has an area of 10.575 sq miles, about 36% lower than your number. This scales your population density proportionately: 1216 people per sub-square, and 1.79 hams per sub-square.

Steve
W3HF


Re: Not too long to go!

boat.anchor <boat.anchor@...>
 

Joe
SRI I only eat brown rice.
Barry

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "ljl2002@..." <joe_molon@...> wrote:

We'll be on it like white on rice!!!!!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@...> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@...>
Subject: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM



 



Joe, Mike and of course Ivor,
Well, without giving away too much information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL" would be bigger.
Our new award, although not that big is very big! It's huge! And very "do-able".
Anybody can do it. All you need to do is to get on the air. You'll see.
Yep, when Delos gets his radio back and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Flowers
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM
Subject: RE: [070] not long to go

Hi Joe,

It is indeed â€" and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576 sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:

(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.

This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 â€" plus 5,637 for all the little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million sub-squares probably contain some land.

The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land) Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!

;>)

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF, <http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC, <http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@...
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:33 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

That's really big Mike.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > wrote:

From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@... <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: "070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM

Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land ... more or less.

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF
From my iPhone4

On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" <n6mg@... <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> > wrote:

Guys,
Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are there?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76
WOTMC Log Checker
"???" Boss

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@... <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go

Ivor,

No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .

Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.

Toungue really in cheek!

Best,

Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Thu, 6/28/12, ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:

From: ivor peters <m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> >
Subject: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

m5ply@... <mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk>
hi pskers.
not long for the Biiiiiig one now.
will the u.k and Europe know first????
I say this because of the time differents.
it will be midnight here, but not in the u.s.a.
so will members how live in this part of the
world, get emails of the Biiig event hi hi.
tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.



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Re: not long to go

ljl2002@att.net
 

Are we building the American Flag??
 
I feel like a contestant on Wheel of Fortune!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com> wrote:


From: David Westbrook <dwestbrook@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:01 PM


On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com>wrote:

**


They may have that already, Joe. I’m hoping that one of the more talented
among us gens up a log checker for this new, big thing – otherwise all our
heads are gonna hurt !!
YES!  The Endorsement Checker already has support the new award coded and
ready to go :)    It's just hidden until the announcement.
So after the announcement, watch for a followup message from me that it's
been enabled in the endorsement checker, and then go upload your log and
check out the new progress item for the new award -- without giving
anything away, i can tell you it'll be a very good visual representation of
the award :)

--david
KJ4IZW


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Re: not long to go

ljl2002@att.net
 

Oh no.  What have I done!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, melachri <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:


From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Re: not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 10:50 PM



 



Mike -

Nice analysis. But I have one quibble.

Each sub-square, such as EL29hk is equal to 5 nautical miles by 2.5
nautical miles.
Did you intend this as an approximation, becuase that's not the way sub-squares are defined. They're based on latitude and longitude, not absolute distance. A sub-square is 2.5' (minutes) tall and 5' (minutes) wide. The height (in miles) of every square is the same because latitude lines are equi-spaced. But longitude lines converge at the poles. So at the equator, a sub-square is about 2.9 (statute) miles tall and 5.8 miles wide, but at 45 deg latitude, it's only 4.07 miles wide, and at the poles it's an isoceles triangle with height (still) 2.9 miles but with a width at the base of only 22 feet!

I think a better average width is 3.67 miles. (Derivation: Circumference is proportional to the cosign of latitude. Find the average circumference by integrating COS across latitudes from 0 to 90, resulting in (2/PI)*width at equator.) With a height of 2.9 miles, the average sub-square has an area of 10.575 sq miles, about 36% lower than your number. This scales your population density proportionately: 1216 people per sub-square, and 1.79 hams per sub-square.

Steve
W3HF








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Re: not long to go

David Westbrook
 

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com>wrote:

**


They may have that already, Joe. Im hoping that one of the more talented
among us gens up a log checker for this new, big thing otherwise all our
heads are gonna hurt !!
YES! The Endorsement Checker already has support the new award coded and
ready to go :) It's just hidden until the announcement.
So after the announcement, watch for a followup message from me that it's
been enabled in the endorsement checker, and then go upload your log and
check out the new progress item for the new award -- without giving
anything away, i can tell you it'll be a very good visual representation of
the award :)

--david
KJ4IZW


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Re: not long to go

Steve W3HF
 

Mike -

Nice analysis. But I have one quibble.

Each sub-square, such as EL29hk is equal to 5 nautical miles by 2.5
nautical miles.
Did you intend this as an approximation, becuase that's not the way sub-squares are defined. They're based on latitude and longitude, not absolute distance. A sub-square is 2.5' (minutes) tall and 5' (minutes) wide. The height (in miles) of every square is the same because latitude lines are equi-spaced. But longitude lines converge at the poles. So at the equator, a sub-square is about 2.9 (statute) miles tall and 5.8 miles wide, but at 45 deg latitude, it's only 4.07 miles wide, and at the poles it's an isoceles triangle with height (still) 2.9 miles but with a width at the base of only 22 feet!

I think a better average width is 3.67 miles. (Derivation: Circumference is proportional to the cosign of latitude. Find the average circumference by integrating COS across latitudes from 0 to 90, resulting in (2/PI)*width at equator.) With a height of 2.9 miles, the average sub-square has an area of 10.575 sq miles, about 36% lower than your number. This scales your population density proportionately: 1216 people per sub-square, and 1.79 hams per sub-square.

Steve
W3HF


Re: not long to go

ljl2002@att.net
 

Ohhhh... my head still hurts!
 
Anybody have any hipboots???  I'm gonna need them soon!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Fri, 6/29/12, Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [070] Re: not long to go
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 9:46 PM



 



I know, Steve - I was just playing for time while gathering statistics. So
here goes my complete SWAG at the problem:

The population density of the planet (including all land area) is about 105
people per square mile. If Antarctica is eliminated (since it has zero
population density - not exactly correct, but let's assume this.), the world
population density rises only to 115 people per square mile.

Each sub-square, such as EL29hk is equal to 5 nautical miles by 2.5 nautical
miles.

One international nautical mile converts to 1.150779 miles (statute).

So a Maidenhead sub-square is 5.753895 miles by 2.8769475 miles or
16.5536538355125 square miles.

Doing the math we get: an average of 115 people per square mile X
16.5536538355125 square miles equals 1903.670191083938 - say an average 1904
persons per Maidenhead sub-square.

The average percentage of the population that are Amateur Radio operators
can be roughly expratolated from the following jumbled table:

Japan 1,296,059 1.012 1999

United States 738,497 0.239 2012

Thailand 176,278 0.275 2006

South Korea 141,000 0.288 2000

Germany 75,262 0.092 2007

Taiwan 68,692 0.296 1999

Canada 69,183 0.201 2011

Spain 58,700 0.127 1999

United Kingdom 58,426 0.094 2000

Russia 38,000 0.026 1993

Brazil 32,053 0.016 1997

Italy 30,000 0.049 1993

Indonesia 27,815 0.011 1997

People's Rep China 20,000 0.001 2008

France 18,500 0.028 1997

Ukraine 17,265 0.037 2000

Argentina 16,889 0.042 1999

Poland 16,000 0.041 2000

Australia 15,328 0.067 2000

India 15,679 0.001 2000

Denmark 8,668 0.156 2012

Slovenia 6,500 0.317 2000

South Africa 6,000 0.012 1994

Norway 5,302 0.106 2000

0.14725 Average percentage of population
that are Amateur Radio operators = %.0014735

Another visit to the calculator yields: an average 1904 persons per
Maidenhead sub-square X percentage of the population licensed Amateurs
.0014735 equals 2.805544 - 2, perhaps 3 licensed Amateurs per Maidenhead
sub-square on average.

A generous estimate is that the average probability of working any one
Maidenhead sub-square is 635:1 - give or take a point or two.

- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF,
<http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC,
<http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of melachri
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:43 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [070] Re: not long to go

I meant the QSO probability problem you proposed.

As someone who DOES chase grid squares, I thought it would be interesting.

Steve

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike Flowers"
<mike.flowers@...> wrote:

Something NEW & BIG starts in:1Days



Just one days, apparently . ;>)



- 73 de Mike, <http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> K6MKF,
<http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> W6NAG, VP <http://www.ncdxc.org/> NCDXC,
<http://www.scdr.org/> Dachshund Rescue, <http://www.waiohuli.com/> Maui



From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
melachri
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:23 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [070] Re: not long to go





I just hope that it doesn't take 358 years for someone to solve THIS
problem!

Steve

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<mike.flowers@> wrote:

Alas, Steve, I must demur .



Est dividere cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi. Hanc
marginis
exiguitas non caperet. - I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of
this,
which this margin (email) is too narrow to contain. - Pierre de Fermat





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Re: Not too long to go!

ljl2002@att.net
 

Delos,
 
I know.... the first one to a googleplex wins!!!!
 
GL with the rig!
 
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482

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From: Delos <drbyrne@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 8:44 PM



 




Joe,

Sheldon Cooper on Big Bang Theory says it's a Clowder of cats...ie, more
than one cat. Guess you can tell what I spend my time watching! Just
hope I can get the TS2000 back in time to take part in the festivities!

Delos / NO8R / #777

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:28 PM, ljl2002@att.net wrote:

Delos,
 
Was that cloudah or chowdah????
 
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482

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wrote:

From: Delos Byrne < drbyrne@chartermi.net
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Subject: Re: [070] Not too long to go!
To: " 070@yahoogroups.com
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070@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:45 PM

 

Yes indeed, Milt...just as soon as I get the TS2000 back from Clif it's
"Tally Ho", and no cats will be safe! ( I believe that would be a
Clowder of cats)! :-)
Delos / NO8R / # 777

Sent from My iPad 3

On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Milton Garb" < n6mg@verizon.net
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wrote:

Joe, Mike and of course Ivor, Well, without giving away too much
information and maintaining the suspense, I have to say that "WAMSSCL"
would be bigger. Our new award, although not that big is very big!
It's huge! And very "do-able". Anybody can do it. All you need to do
is to get on the air. You'll see. Yep, when Delos gets his radio back
and on the air, he'll chase this one like a bulldog chasing a cat!
Milt. N6MG 070-650 LONP #76 WOTMC Log Checker "???" Boss
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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: RE: [070] not long to go
Hi Joe,
It is indeed – and that’s just grid squares such as CM97. When we get
down to the sub-square level, say CM97bf, there are 24 X 24 = 576
sub-squares in each grid square and the calculation becomes:
(324 X 100 X 576) X .292 = 5,449,420.8, estimated six-designator grid
squares containing some land. Now given that the grid squares are of
regular geometric shape and the coastlines are essentially fractals, I
would add 10% to this number to account for those sub-squares where a
bit of land might be included in an otherwise empty sub-square.
This would bring my estimate up to 5,994,363 – plus 5,637 for all the
little islands sprinkled around the globe and I’ll say 6 million
sub-squares probably contain some land.
The WAMSSCL ( Worked All Maidenhead Sub-squares Containing Land)
Endorsement? That would be really, really big !!
;>)
- 73 de Mike, < http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF
<http://www.qrz.com/db/K6MKF> > K6MKF, < http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG
<http://www.qrz.com/db/W6NAG> > W6NAG, VP < http://www.ncdxc.org/
<http://www.ncdxc.org/> > NCDXC, < http://www.scdr.org/
<http://www.scdr.org/> > Dachshund Rescue, < http://www.waiohuli.com/
<http://www.waiohuli.com/> > Maui
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Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
That's really big Mike.
Joe KA1PPV #1482
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<mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
To: " 070@yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> " < 070@yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> > Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 12:29 AM
Let's see: 32,400 grid squares (of the CM97 variety), and 29.2% of the
earth's surface is land, so 32,400 X .292 = 9,986.4 squares with land
... more or less.
-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF From my iPhone4
On Jun 28, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Milton Garb" < n6mg@verizon.net
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Guys, Just out of curiosity, how many grid squares, over land, are
there? Milt. N6MG 070-650 LONP #76 WOTMC Log Checker "???" Boss
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<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] not long to go
Ivor,
No I think that we find out first and youz guys have to wait until it
goes all the way around again. HI HI HI .
Maybe we'll all know when the grayline passes the International
Dateline. I'm still holding out for Maidenheads.
Toungue really in cheek!
Best,
Joe KA1PPV #1482
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<mailto:m5ply%40blueyonder.co.uk> hi pskers. not long for the
Biiiiiig one now. will the u.k and Europe know first???? I say this
because of the time differents. it will be midnight here, but not in
the u.s.a. so will members how live in this part of the world, get
emails of the Biiig event hi hi. tongue in cheek. 73 ivor m5ply 0292.
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