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Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

Scotty W7PSK
 

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, Jim Innis <jinnis@...> wrote:

Wish I had said that!

I spent a year on Diego Garcia, operating as WB6EWH/VQ9, and have been on the
other end of DX pileups. Occasionally I would get so frustrated that I would
just walk away from the rig.


One time, because the roar of callsigns coming out of the speaker (I could not
determine a single callsign), I got up, went and got a cup of coffee, came back
to the rig, and the roar was still going. Repeated requests on how to speed up
the contact rate were ignored. There were some hams in the U.S. that I just
would not work because of their rude, aggressive behavior.

What was neat for me was an afternoon get-together of stations in Pago-Pago,
Diego Garcia, Guam, Northwest Cape, and occasionally some other rare dx for a
rag chew net among us.


Please be courteous, listen to the dx station, and follow HIS rules. Unless you
have been on the other end, you have no concept of how difficult it is to work
pileups when no one listens to your requests.

Just my .02

Jim, K5SP

Wow Jim, Talk about bringing back memories. Former VQ9RS (Aug-Dec 1980) I had the same issues. I used to rag Chew with a ZS, A9 and A6 back in the day. It was amazing how many Rude ops would break the pile when we just wanted to chat.

Did they have the BAD List still there? We used to keep a list of Dont ever QSL at the 2 operating stations. We compared the log to that list (Time consuming if you ran a pile) but before I sent the logs to my manager Id check the list. I also Noted bad OPS in my log and Lyle (N6BLN) my manager would send the card back with a note that stated due to your poor operating practices you would not be getting a card and that you had made the VQ9 Do not QSL list. Amazing the long appolgy letters we got.

Anyway, I would always start my piles with a Rule list of what I expected. If those rules were not followed I would leave. It was amazing after a couple days of that how the Word got around the DX nets of the 80s that when I was on you best follow the rules or I would quit.

Yea I was a jerk, but my Work Rates were 10-15 a minute :).


Scotty W7PSK


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

Joseph Miller <radiodxer2000@...>
 

Hi Steve and the group,
 
5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

I wished more DXpeditions would use split frequencies when working PSK31. I can say that there are always a few "tailgaters" who do not realize that they may be interfering with a call intended for someone else.  This happened to me a few times this year, once when the tailgaters were finished, all I saw on the waterfall was "KJ8O de XXXXXX pse KN".
 
And I am guilty of it too, but I think if we all work together, more people will get their chance to work the DX stations.
 
Ok, I'll step down from the soapbox....
 
Thanks for the great job you're doing, Steve.
 
 
VY 73 de Joe KJ8O 1244
 
 


And I am guilty of it too


Re: Lesson Learned

 

Steve,
Does that FT-2000 have enough buttons and knobs on the front panel for you? :-)
I like my FT-2000, and after a month or 2 of mastering what I was interested in, I now use it for CW only.
My digital radio is a Kenwood TS-480HX. I like the small foot print on my desk, and I can go to 200 watts for RTTY when necessary.
Have fun down there.
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:10 AM
Subject: [070] Lesson Learned



I learned today that Yaesu's Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) and PSK31 don't mix well together.

I had been wondering why many of the signals on 20m were distorted. I didn't have the problem on 15 or 10, but 20 was different. On some signals, I didn't get railroad tracks on the waterfall. Signals were strong enough (based on color and brightness) but it was an almost-solid blob.

On this trip I'm using a Yaesu FT-2000; the FT1000MP Mark-V that I used last time is broken. With a little bit of playing, I figured out much of the rig, but still had that problem on 20m.

So today I started paying close attention to everything in the display, and correlating the indicators to buttons/knobs on the front panel. And there are a lot of those, 16 knobs and 75 buttons! But when I pushed the DNR button, a "DNR" light on the display went out and the signals cleared up!

DNR is probably a great feature for audio signals, but wreaks havoc on PSK. My guess is that it is destroying the phase shifts. Your ear can't hear phase, so it can be used as a "degree of freedom" (in other words, something to be sacrificed) for audio signals. But for a signal where the information is carried by phase changes (like PSK), it's a disaster!

So, my apologies to anyone who tried to call me and I couldn't decode it. I know what to look for now.

73,
Steve
W3HF/KH2


Lesson Learned

Steve W3HF
 

I learned today that Yaesu's Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) and PSK31 don't mix well together.

I had been wondering why many of the signals on 20m were distorted. I didn't have the problem on 15 or 10, but 20 was different. On some signals, I didn't get railroad tracks on the waterfall. Signals were strong enough (based on color and brightness) but it was an almost-solid blob.

On this trip I'm using a Yaesu FT-2000; the FT1000MP Mark-V that I used last time is broken. With a little bit of playing, I figured out much of the rig, but still had that problem on 20m.

So today I started paying close attention to everything in the display, and correlating the indicators to buttons/knobs on the front panel. And there are a lot of those, 16 knobs and 75 buttons! But when I pushed the DNR button, a "DNR" light on the display went out and the signals cleared up!

DNR is probably a great feature for audio signals, but wreaks havoc on PSK. My guess is that it is destroying the phase shifts. Your ear can't hear phase, so it can be used as a "degree of freedom" (in other words, something to be sacrificed) for audio signals. But for a signal where the information is carried by phase changes (like PSK), it's a disaster!

So, my apologies to anyone who tried to call me and I couldn't decode it. I know what to look for now.

73,
Steve
W3HF/KH2


20m!

Steve W3HF
 

Wooo, 20 is open too!


Re: W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

tnx, I think we confirmed, qsl?
 
have a good evening
 
Ted


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From: Stephen Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m


 
ted -

I saw you. ur about 1000 hz above me

Steve


On 04/24/12, Ted Krempa<trkrempa@yahoo.com> wrote:

M, do you still see him??
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Ted
05:15

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From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m

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Steve,
Thanks for the contacts. Your signal is strong and clean.
73,
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.

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Re: W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Steve W3HF
 

ted -


I saw you. ur about 1000 hz above me


Steve

On 04/24/12, Ted Krempa<trkrempa@yahoo.com> wrote:

M, do you still see him??

Ted
05:15


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From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m



Steve,
Thanks for the contacts. Your signal is strong and clean.
73,
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.






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Re: W3HF/KH2 on 15m

 

Hi Ted...
Yes,
He's in and out...but still there. At times strong.
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Krempa
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m



M, do you still see him??

Ted
05:15

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From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m


Steve,
Thanks for the contacts. Your signal is strong and clean.
73,
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.

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Re: W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

M, do you still see him??
 
Ted
05:15


________________________________
From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m


 
Steve,
Thanks for the contacts. Your signal is strong and clean.
73,
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.

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Re: W3HF/KH2 on 15m

 

Steve,
Thanks for the contacts. Your signal is strong and clean.
73,
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/KH2 on 15m



Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.


W3HF/KH2 on 15m

Steve W3HF
 

Looks like the band is open to California. Good copy on AG6KN.


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

boat.anchor <boat.anchor@...>
 

Steve
It was with great humour that I read this until I realized I am one of the guilty ones on item 1. I do apologize and appreciate you pointing it out. My DX Macro set has been tuned up.
All the best and enjoy your time there.
BTW Danny's callsign is in my log a few times as well. Say Hi to him please.
best regards
Barry
VA7GEM

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "melachri" <w3hf@...> wrote:

After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

 

I use MixW, and use the K1PGV stand alone macro's as a supplement to the 12 MixW icons. I have the stand alone macro program installed in different places on my hard drive as well as in the main MixW folder which gives me the ability to have several copies running for contests, band changing, different psk and qpsk speeds as well as macro's just for quick exchanges for rtty dx and psk dx, etc.
Works for me.
Milt.
N6MG
070-650

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station



Mark,

That's the way to do it. I also use a short and long version and I customize the short one for the particular DX/Test that I am working.

It works much better that way for the DX,contact and all those of us waiting in the queue.

Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, M. Schiefelbein <arcosanza@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: M. Schiefelbein <arcosanza@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 9:08 AM



It seems like it would good practice for anyone who's a regular on PSK to have two macros preprogrammed. (I'm using the DM780 format for these, but it should be easy to translate to other programs)

1. Answer the DX:
<his:callsign> de <my:callsign> <my:callsign> <my:callsign> k<stop>
or even just
de <my:callsign> <my:callsign> <my:callsign> k<stop>

2. Give a report and get out of the way:
<his:callsign> 599 599 TU 73 de <my:callsign> SK<add-log><stop>

Two macros, and you've answered the DX, given him a report, wished him well, and added the QSO to your log, all in the space of 60 seconds. Even if you don't normally chase DX, if someday you see Bhutan CQing on the waterfall and decide to give them a call, you'll be ready. And you won't have to frantically type by hand or subject the rest of us in the pileup (and the DX) to your normal macro with city/state, grid square, etc.

--mark/K0ABC

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, melachri <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 7:42 AM



After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign. Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX, and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week. And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition. What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability. Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve

W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)



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Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

ljl2002@att.net
 

Mark,
 
That's the way to do it.  I also use a short and long version and I customize the short one for the particular DX/Test that I am working.
 
It works much better that way for the DX,contact and all those of us waiting in the queue.
 
Joe
KA1PPV # 1482

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, M. Schiefelbein <arcosanza@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: M. Schiefelbein <arcosanza@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 9:08 AM



 



It seems like it would good practice for anyone who's a regular on PSK to have two macros preprogrammed. (I'm using the DM780 format for these, but it should be easy to translate to other programs)

1. Answer the DX:
<his:callsign> de <my:callsign> <my:callsign> <my:callsign> k<stop>
or even just
de <my:callsign> <my:callsign> <my:callsign> k<stop>

2. Give a report and get out of the way:
<his:callsign> 599 599 TU 73 de <my:callsign> SK<add-log><stop>

Two macros, and you've answered the DX, given him a report, wished him well, and added the QSO to your log, all in the space of 60 seconds. Even if you don't normally chase DX, if someday you see Bhutan CQing on the waterfall and decide to give them a call, you'll be ready. And you won't have to frantically type by hand or subject the rest of us in the pileup (and the DX) to your normal macro with city/state, grid square, etc.

--mark/K0ABC

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, melachri <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 7:42 AM

 

After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign. Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX, and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week. And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition. What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability. Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve

W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)

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Proper adjustment of audio levels for transmit

Jim Rogers <w4atk@...>
 

I am increasingly running across stations that are over-driving their transmitters. When I can copy a signal at 3 points in the filter passband, that is a problem. And the distortion on an over-driven signal often makes the signal difficult to copy or un-copiable.

1) When transmitting using USB (Upper Sideband) and audio input via the mic jack, adjust the audio drive to a point just below the ALC kicking in. And remember your PSK-31 audio is going through the same speech processor settings as you mic audio, so turn off speech processing and/or compression.

2) If you have a DATA mode, i.e. the Elecraft K3, using the LINE IN connection, set the audio level (MIC) to 4 bars of ALC. Then adjust PWR to the appropriate power output level. LINE IN in most rigs by-passes any speech processing and/or compression.

3) Do not be offended if someone gives you a bad report, check your audio drive. An over-driven signal is bad for everyone, and indicates a lack of skill on the part of the operator.

73s Jim, W4ATK


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

ljl2002@att.net
 

Patrick,
 
You gotta be kiddin me!
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, Patrick Weatherford <patricknw@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Patrick Weatherford <patricknw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 8:49 AM



 



Steve,

I was amused to read this first thing this morning. You could also call
this the "Tips on how to work stations in a contest" as the same thing
happens there.

I distinctly remember working a contest a while back and I gave the
other guy a quick "599 AR" report.... I had a big pileup going. He
responds with a macro that lasted a solid EIGHT MINUTES about his
keyboard being "horizontally polarized" and about having a 19 inch LCD
monitor, 8 gigs of RAM, and a TB hard drive with 20% of the space used.
Very frustrating.

The best part is point #1.... I see stations give MY call sign three,
four, even five times, and theirs only once. I often respond with "yes,
I know my own callsign."

Have fun out there in KH2. It's on my bucket list!

Patrick
AE5PW

On 4/23/2012 7:42 AM, melachri wrote:

After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions,
with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or
3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I
probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you
first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After
all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste
my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your
regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all
your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS
version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset
you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know
all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone
ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign.
Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only
thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX,
and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the
mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want
YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure
you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to
hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week.
And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many
callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition.
What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros
completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already
knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie
QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it
completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you
find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you
incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability.
Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve
W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)










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Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

ljl2002@att.net
 

Steve,
 
Bravo!  Well said!
 
Any idea how many hours I've spent in the queue waiting for someone to give their life history and that of their operating career/weather/equipment?  It sure is frustrating on this end too especially when you see the band beginning to fade and you know that you are just not going to get your chance.
 
Thank you for humorously stating what should be the obvious.
 
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Mon, 4/23/12, melachri <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:


From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 23, 2012, 8:42 AM



 



After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign. Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX, and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week. And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition. What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability. Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve
W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)








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WA3WSJ: New Kindle Bookstore and thanks!

Edward R Breneiser <breneiser@...>
 

Hello all,

I would like to thank all the testers who looked at my Kindle Book entitled,
"Amateur Radio and the Great Outdoors." It looks like the book is fine for
Kindles and a few other readers etc. Due to all the emails requesting a
Kindle version, I have opened the WA3WSJ Kindle Bookstore. If you want to
visit the store, just click the link - thanks.

I hope you enjoy the books!

http://www.wa3wsj.org/WA3WSJ-Kindle-Book-Store.html

73,
Ed, WA3WSJ


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

 

#3 is certainly a pet peeve of mine. What's so difficult about waiting for a station, (DX or not) to acknowledge your call BEFORE you come back with your exchange?
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:42 AM
Subject: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station



After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign. Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX, and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week. And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition. What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability. Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve
W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)


Re: Tips on how to work DX from a DX station

 

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:42 AM
Subject: [070] Tips on how to work DX from a DX station



After a week of being semi-rare DX, I offer the following suggestions, with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

1. When you are responding to my CQ, repeat MY callsign at least 2 or 3 times, so I know you're responding to me.

2. If I respond to someone else, go ahead and call me again, because I probably didn't hear you correctly and surely I MEANT to call YOU.

3. Feel free to give me your name, QTH and signal report when you first call me, instead of waiting to see if I respond to you. After all, it might save YOU a few seconds; it doesn't matter if you waste my time or QRM other stations.

4. When I give you a quick signal report only, make sure you use your regular "response" macro that welcomes me to your screen, tells me all your QTH details (like your county), your equipment information (OS version, how much RAM in your computer, what microphone and headset you use), and your license history. After all, I probably want to know all that even if I just want a short QSO.

5. Ignore me if I ask you to work split. That's really so everyone ELSE will get out of YOUR way.

6. You can also ignore me if I ask you to repeat just your callsign. Just use your 3x3 macro.

7. When the QSO is over, please use your usual macro that not only thanks me but hopes to see me again, wishes me good luck and good DX, and sends greetings to my family, my cats, my neighbors and the mailman. After all, courtesy is important.

8. Don't forget to tell me YOUR QSL policy, because I will surely want YOUR card.

9. Once I say 73 to you and move on to another CQ or QRZ?, make sure you send your own 73, bye bye, and greetings to me. I really want to hear that, not the next guy calling me.

Seriously, all these things happened to me at least once this week. And it's frustrating as can be when my objective is to put as many callsigns in my log as I can. So here's the real list:

1. Don't use your regular ragchewing macros to work a DXpedition. What, you don't have any others? Either make some, or skip the macros completely.

2. Emphasize using your own call, not the DX station's. He already knows his call; he needs to hear yours.

3. Don't give him more info than he gives you. If he wants a quickie QSO, oblige him. If you don't like quickie QSOs, then skip it completely instead of forcing your protocols on him. Or wait until you find a DX station that WANTS to ragchew.

4. Once he moves on, don't transmit any more UNLESS he logged you incorrectly.

5. Follow his instructions. Exactly, to the best of your ability. Because he'll expect you to if you want to get in his log.

Steve
W3HF/KH2 (for 6 more days)