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Re: scoring question?

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

these issues should be clear BEFORE a contest. Putting a particular 'spin' or interpretation on it AFTER the fact is meaningless. Saying 'spirit' left everything open to interpretation.
 
(but I do like Milt's opinion !!)
 
73, TK, K7TRK

From: melachri <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: [070] Re: scoring question?


 
I guess we have this conversation every year. See

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/070/message/26208

and the responses.

Here's my take. Remember that it's unofficial, as I'm no longer the official 070 Rules Maven.

Note that the contest rules say "In the same spirit of the Word Of The Month Challenges." So let's refer to the WOTM rules. They say:

"A callsign can be used only 1 time for a monthly submission wih multiple occurrences of a letter (so for February's "COAXIAL CABLE" you must work 2 different stations with the Suffix Letter "C")."

So it's clear that for WOTM, a callsign can only be used once even if there are multiple words. I believe that "the spirit of the rules" as applied to the contest would imply that a single callsign can only be used once for the multiple words required for the contest bonus.

As a result, spelling ERIN, GO, and BRAGH require, respectively, 4,2, and 5 QSOs with unique stations, none of which can be reused for another word, for a total of 11 QSOs with 11 separate and distinct stations to claim the 200 point "bonus bonus."

Now I will admit that the reference to WOTM is not perfect as WOTM does not give partial credit for spelling individual words, as the contest does. (Hint to management coming.) So maybe the contest rules could be tweaked by adding something like:

"Note that a single callsign can only be used once anywhere in the phrase Erin Go Bragh, even if credit for only two words is claimed."

But I do believe that the above is both the intent of the club and the reasonable interpretation of the contest rules as written.

Steve
W3HF




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Re: scoring question?

 

I totally concur with Steve. I do believe it's the intent of the club management to count a letter once per different callsign. Not a letter counting 3 times for 1 contact.
I was clicking on traces last month looking for a 3rd "A" in "COAXIAL CABLE" for days.
I think that should carry forward to "ERIN GO BRAGH" or any effort to spell out something.
Unofficially, that's the way I see it.
We'll see what management has to say.
Milt.
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: melachri
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: [070] Re: scoring question?



I guess we have this conversation every year. See

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/070/message/26208

and the responses.

Here's my take. Remember that it's unofficial, as I'm no longer the official 070 Rules Maven.

Note that the contest rules say "In the same spirit of the Word Of The Month Challenges." So let's refer to the WOTM rules. They say:

"A callsign can be used only 1 time for a monthly submission wih multiple occurrences of a letter (so for February's "COAXIAL CABLE" you must work 2 different stations with the Suffix Letter "C")."

So it's clear that for WOTM, a callsign can only be used once even if there are multiple words. I believe that "the spirit of the rules" as applied to the contest would imply that a single callsign can only be used once for the multiple words required for the contest bonus.

As a result, spelling ERIN, GO, and BRAGH require, respectively, 4,2, and 5 QSOs with unique stations, none of which can be reused for another word, for a total of 11 QSOs with 11 separate and distinct stations to claim the 200 point "bonus bonus."

Now I will admit that the reference to WOTM is not perfect as WOTM does not give partial credit for spelling individual words, as the contest does. (Hint to management coming.) So maybe the contest rules could be tweaked by adding something like:

"Note that a single callsign can only be used once anywhere in the phrase Erin Go Bragh, even if credit for only two words is claimed."

But I do believe that the above is both the intent of the club and the reasonable interpretation of the contest rules as written.

Steve
W3HF


Re: scoring question?

Steve W3HF
 

I guess we have this conversation every year. See

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/070/message/26208

and the responses.

Here's my take. Remember that it's unofficial, as I'm no longer the official 070 Rules Maven.

Note that the contest rules say "In the same spirit of the Word Of The Month Challenges." So let's refer to the WOTM rules. They say:

"A callsign can be used only 1 time for a monthly submission wih multiple occurrences of a letter (so for February's "COAXIAL CABLE" you must work 2 different stations with the Suffix Letter "C")."

So it's clear that for WOTM, a callsign can only be used once even if there are multiple words. I believe that "the spirit of the rules" as applied to the contest would imply that a single callsign can only be used once for the multiple words required for the contest bonus.

As a result, spelling ERIN, GO, and BRAGH require, respectively, 4,2, and 5 QSOs with unique stations, none of which can be reused for another word, for a total of 11 QSOs with 11 separate and distinct stations to claim the 200 point "bonus bonus."

Now I will admit that the reference to WOTM is not perfect as WOTM does not give partial credit for spelling individual words, as the contest does. (Hint to management coming.) So maybe the contest rules could be tweaked by adding something like:

"Note that a single callsign can only be used once anywhere in the phrase Erin Go Bragh, even if credit for only two words is claimed."

But I do believe that the above is both the intent of the club and the reasonable interpretation of the contest rules as written.

Steve
W3HF


A35YZ on 15m

 

A35YZ, Tonga, IOTA: OC-49 is back on 15m.
Milt.


Re: scoring question?

David Westbrook
 

But i'm not sure that getting "erin", "go", and "braugh" individually
automatically means that you get "erin go braugh" ...

My (unofficial!) interpretation would be that there's 4 separate wotm-stype
bonuses, that independently follow the WOTM rules.
1) "ERIN" -- 100pts
2) "GO" -- 100pts
3) "BRAGH" -- 100pts
4) "ERIN-GO-BRAGH" -- 200pts
So using the same "R" QSO for 1 & 3, or the same "G" QSO for 2 & 3
would be fine ... but need to have two "G"s and two "R"s for #4.

But needs official clarification ...

thanks,
--david
KJ4IZW

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net> wrote:

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You get 500 points for spelling "Erin Go Braugh". That's it...You get 100
points for spelling out each individual name, OR 500 points if you got all
three.
You don't get 800 points.
ok?
Milton
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Krempa
To: 070 club
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: [070] scoring question?

Ok, I got the Erin (100pts), the Go(100pts) and the Braugh(100pts)..

do I automatically get the 500 bonus pts? (total 800pts)

or do I need letters to spell out 'Erin Go Braugh' again?

73, TK, K7TRK

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Re: scoring question?

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

roger...I'll take the 500
 
tnx, Ted

From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [070] scoring question?


 
You get 500 points for spelling "Erin Go Braugh". That's it...You get 100 points for spelling out each individual name, OR 500 points if you got all three.
You don't get 800 points.
ok?
Milton
N6MG
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Krempa
To: 070 club
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: [070] scoring question?

Ok, I got the Erin (100pts), the Go(100pts) and the Braugh(100pts)..

do I automatically get the 500 bonus pts? (total 800pts)

or do I need letters to spell out 'Erin Go Braugh' again?

73, TK, K7TRK

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Re: scoring question?

 

You get 500 points for spelling "Erin Go Braugh". That's it...You get 100 points for spelling out each individual name, OR 500 points if you got all three.
You don't get 800 points.
ok?
Milton
N6MG

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Krempa
To: 070 club
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: [070] scoring question?



Ok, I got the Erin (100pts), the Go(100pts) and the Braugh(100pts)..

do I automatically get the 500 bonus pts? (total 800pts)

or do I need letters to spell out 'Erin Go Braugh' again?

73, TK, K7TRK


Re: I am home now

Chuck Kovacs
 

sounds good mark. we're all pulling for om.


n2eoc chuck


________________________________
From: Mark Crosbie <N8MNI@columbus.rr.com>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: [070] I am home now



 

I got home yesterday from the hospital.

Still have all my toes. Still fighting to keep my toes. But no infection
now.

Going to my doctor today to see what he has to say.

May be a big change in direction on my treatment.

I am trying to place this in God's hands to guide me in the correct
decisions.

I think we are going in the right direction now.

God Bless, Thanks for the prayers

Mark
N8MNI

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scoring question?

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

Ok, I got the Erin (100pts), the Go(100pts) and the Braugh(100pts)..
 
do I automatically get the 500 bonus pts?   (total 800pts)
 
or do I need letters to spell out 'Erin Go Braugh' again?
 
73, TK, K7TRK

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Re: I am home now

Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...>
 

Great news Mark. I am sure many of us will be keeping you in our prayers.



73,

Bob N3PPH



From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Crosbie
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:18 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [070] I am home now





I got home yesterday from the hospital.

Still have all my toes. Still fighting to keep my toes. But no infection
now.

Going to my doctor today to see what he has to say.

May be a big change in direction on my treatment.

I am trying to place this in God's hands to guide me in the correct
decisions.

I think we are going in the right direction now.

God Bless, Thanks for the prayers

Mark
N8MNI


I am home now

Mark - N8MNI
 

I got home yesterday from the hospital.

Still have all my toes. Still fighting to keep my toes. But no infection
now.

Going to my doctor today to see what he has to say.

May be a big change in direction on my treatment.

I am trying to place this in God's hands to guide me in the correct
decisions.

I think we are going in the right direction now.


God Bless, Thanks for the prayers

Mark
N8MNI


A 3-30 PSK Ragchewers Award

Ral
 

goes to....

Michael, AK4HR, has submitted evidence of three 30 minutes (or more) QSOs for the 070 Club Ragchewers 3/30 award.

Congratulations and welcome to the group Michael…

The certificate is in the mail.

73 de Ral - W1IPS


Re: some hams are just lucky..

Larry
 

Tnx Ted, always liked it. I think Dad had it in his shack.
Larry WA7HDZ #404

________________________________
From: Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com>
To: "070@yahoogroups.com" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..

from the source:
 
"That ad was from Life Magazine, January 7, 1952. The artist, John Falter, is highly regarded and was almost certainly not a ham according to research. No one seems to know who W3H?? was as shown on the seat cushion.

Falter died in Pennsylvania (W3-land) in 1982
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Philip_Falter

Jeff
K0OD"
 
Ted, K7TRK


________________________________
From: Ld Rockne <pops435@yahoo.com>
To: "070@yahoogroups.com" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..


 
Hi All,
When I first saw the pic I was a bit confused, but then I remember someone
saying "isn't Rhat Steve's call". Then it dawned on me (duh) thats the same
pic I have been using as wallpaper for the last 2-3 weeks.
Found it while surfing the web.
 
I first saw it when I was a kid, but can't remeember what publication it it
appeared in.
 
Larry WA7HDZ #404 
 
 

________________________________
From: Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com>
To: 070 club <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: [070] some hams are just lucky..

pls visit this link for a picture of how it was or maybe should be..
 
http://tinyurl.com/yetslw8
 
p.s. We have not been able to confirm that this is a pix of a certain location in Rowland Heights, CA.   Investigation continues
 
73,  Ted, K7TRK

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Re: A35YZ Tonga

Scott Long
 

MMVARI has him about +913 hz.



I got him!!



Thanks!



Scott, K8SM



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From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Flowers
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:49 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [070] A35YZ Tonga





Yep, OC-049 .

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF

From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Ted Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:46 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [070] A35YZ Tonga

whoo hoo !

IOTA #OC-049 near as I can tell

TK, K7TRK

________________________________
From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com>
<mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [070] A35YZ Tonga

Tnx for the spot, Ted. Worked him on 21069.37 .

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF

From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of Ted
Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:24 PM
To: 070 club
Subject: [070] A35YZ Tonga

Tonga on 15m from Orego...weak bt copiable

21.070.851


Re: A35YZ Tonga

Mike Flowers
 

Yep, OC-049 …



- 73 de Mike, K6MKF



From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:46 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] A35YZ Tonga





whoo hoo !

IOTA #OC-049 near as I can tell

TK, K7TRK

________________________________
From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com <mailto:mike.flowers%40gmail.com> >
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [070] A35YZ Tonga


Tnx for the spot, Ted. Worked him on 21069.37 .

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF

From: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ted
Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:24 PM
To: 070 club
Subject: [070] A35YZ Tonga

Tonga on 15m from Orego...weak bt copiable

21.070.851

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Re: A35YZ Tonga

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

whoo hoo !
 
IOTA #OC-049 near as I can tell
 
TK, K7TRK


________________________________
From: Mike Flowers <mike.flowers@gmail.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [070] A35YZ Tonga


 
Tnx for the spot, Ted. Worked him on 21069.37 .

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:24 PM
To: 070 club
Subject: [070] A35YZ Tonga

Tonga on 15m from Orego...weak bt copiable

21.070.851



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Re: A35YZ Tonga

Mike Flowers
 

Tnx for the spot, Ted. Worked him on 21069.37 .



- 73 de Mike, K6MKF



From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted
Krempa
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:24 PM
To: 070 club
Subject: [070] A35YZ Tonga





Tonga on 15m from Orego...weak bt copiable

21.070.851


A35YZ Tonga

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

Tonga on 15m from Orego...weak bt copiable
 
21.070.851

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Re: some hams are just lucky..

Mike Flowers
 

A bit of poking around shows the following about the US QSL card callsigns:



Vincent J. Tampio, W2LLP:1960

4 Jaekle Ave

Silver Creek, NY 14136



Kenneth Mc G. Pfeiffer, W3AEN:1960

2769 Leechburg Rd

New Kensington, PA 15068



Gordon L. Hume, W1LBQ

100 Cedar St #1

Waltham, MA 02453



W2BOB USA

ROBERT J MAICKEL

164 BELLMORE ST

FLORAL PARK, NY 11001

USA



Mostly NE stations from back in the 1950s although I found 1960 references to a couple.



I sent W2BOB the link to the ad …







- 73 de Mike, K6MKF



From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ljl2002@att.net
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:49 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..





Milton,

All we have to do is pray for more sunspots and it won't matter which coast we're on!
Then there will be a YL&XYL lonely hearts club started! HI HI.

73.
Joe
KA1PPV(Pay Per View)

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From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net <mailto:n6mg%40verizon.net> >
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:58 AM



Joe,
Those close friends that I have here on the reflector know that I usually, on "operating event" weekends, give my YL $100 and send her off with her girlfriends to a casino for lunch, supper and the $.05 slot machines.
She didn't want to go this weekend because of the severe weather we had in So. California.
Her assignment was to keep me hydrated...water, iced tea and coffee.
Several of the members have met my YL, Sandy, and know she's a good sport. I've told her on more than 1 occasion, that "I was a ham before I met you and don't make me make a choice". She blows a little puff of air at me and laughs. I really look forward to our "operating events", and wish we had more members on the West Coast.
Milton
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net <mailto:ljl2002%40att.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..

Ted,
LOL!!! Very Funny!
Every station should be like that one!
73
Joe
KA1PPV

--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com <mailto:trkrempa%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com <mailto:trkrempa%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: [070] some hams are just lucky..
To: "070 club" <070@yahoogroups.com <mailto:070%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:31 AM

pls visit this link for a picture of how it was or maybe should be..

http://tinyurl.com/yetslw8

p.s. We have not been able to confirm that this is a pix of a certain location in Rowland Heights, CA. Investigation continues

73, Ted, K7TRK



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Re: some hams are just lucky..

ljl2002@att.net
 

Milton,
 
All we have to do is pray for more sunspots and it won't matter which coast we're on!
Then there will be a YL&XYL lonely hearts club started! HI HI.
 
73.
Joe
KA1PPV(Pay Per View)

--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net> wrote:


From: Milton Garb <n6mg@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:58 AM



 



Joe,
Those close friends that I have here on the reflector know that I usually, on "operating event" weekends, give my YL $100 and send her off with her girlfriends to a casino for lunch, supper and the $.05 slot machines.
She didn't want to go this weekend because of the severe weather we had in So. California.
Her assignment was to keep me hydrated...water, iced tea and coffee.
Several of the members have met my YL, Sandy, and know she's a good sport. I've told her on more than 1 occasion, that "I was a ham before I met you and don't make me make a choice". She blows a little puff of air at me and laughs. I really look forward to our "operating events", and wish we had more members on the West Coast.
Milton
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@att.net
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [070] some hams are just lucky..

Ted,
LOL!!! Very Funny!
Every station should be like that one!
73
Joe
KA1PPV

--- On Mon, 3/19/12, Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ted Krempa <trkrempa@yahoo.com>
Subject: [070] some hams are just lucky..
To: "070 club" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:31 AM

pls visit this link for a picture of how it was or maybe should be..

http://tinyurl.com/yetslw8

p.s. We have not been able to confirm that this is a pix of a certain location in Rowland Heights, CA. Investigation continues

73, Ted, K7TRK

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