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Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

David Westbrook
 

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...> wrote:

**

p.s. for Jerry..I'm pretty sure there is no 070 sticker for 'the most
postings on the 070 yahoo group'
Should I add support for that in the endorsement checker? :)

--david
KJ4IZW


Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Ted Krempa <trkrempa@...>
 

jeez.....can we end this and get back to playing on the radio
 
call me anything...just not late to dinner !!
 
Ted, K7TRK
 
p.s. for Jerry..I'm pretty sure there is no 070 sticker for 'the most postings on the 070 yahoo group'

From: Jerry <n9avy@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !


 
Darin:
 
My legal name is "Jerald" and that is waht goes on all my legal documents. (FCC license, driver's license, etc. are legal documnents , right ?)   I've always gone by "Jerry" and all my friends know me as that.  If someone on the street calls out "Hey, Jerald" it doesn't register with me... they get ignored.
 
I guess it's really not a big issue, but it seems that poeple could go through the trouble of replying with the name that I give them over the air.  If they don't I assume that they are either lazy, dumb, new to hobby or just a LID ! 
 
Changing my name in FCC database means get my license reissued and then FCC will probably ask why I want to change name. It looks like a lot of hassle over a small issue.  I even tried putting something about it on my QRZ page, but it had no effect.  Maybe Industry Canada is easier to deal with, eh ?
 
Jerry  N9AVY
Jerry  N9AVY 

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, ve3oij <ve3oij@...> wrote:

From: ve3oij <ve3oij@...>
Subject: [070] Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:08 AM

Personally, I let the DB lookup fill in the name.  I figure that if people are genuinely concerned that other people will get the wrong name from a database, then it's up to the individual to ensure their name is correct in the database, not blame database users for using themselves of the information available.

If I see a person's name is different than the DB entry, I'll go up and change it most of the time, but if condx are marginal, I might not see it.

I really don't care what people put in the name field for me, it's the callsign that's the relevant bit.  I've seen people try the Fubar trick, and I *always* let it go and don't say a thing.

Obviously this matter is very dear to some of you, which forces me to ask: why are your names not correct in the database.  Rather than berating other amateurs, your energy would seem to be better spent correcting the database.

If your driver's licence had the wrong name, you'd change it, yes?

Just a thought.

73 de VE3OIJ
-Darin

--- In 070@..., Jerry <n9avy@...> wrote:

While I'm on a rant....   worked two Italian stations in a row yesterday and gave my name as "Jerry"  ...  both came back with "Jerald" from database.  Makes you kinda wonder if these were automated QSOs, huh ?   Maybe I'll repeat their names back in a different form like "Fubar"  and see if I get a rise out of them !  :-)     
--- In 070@..., Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...> wrote:

I know many ops just don't care but I am with
you, My given name is Robert, been called Bob my whole life. When the
come back with Robert I know it is an op on autopilot.

73,
Bob N3PPH 853
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Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Cyrel Moore
 

If I am into a really good conversation with somebody I will use the name that the send me. But if they only want to exchange macros most of the time I dont. I guess I am just being lazy  
At some point though I make sure I send my 070 number.
 
Cyrel
KC7NHT
PODXS 070 #1331


APE (N2GWK)

Eric Dallmann
 

George is at 7036.125, and only needs a few more to make it an official APE. Stop by and work him!

Eric/K9VIC

Sent from my iPod


Re: Name Change

Eric Dallmann
 

I don't think it's generally a matter of hiding anything. Most of the comments were that the look-up name isn't always the goes-by name. Subsequent discussion was on how to get the two to match (e.g., change the FCC database to reflect a nickname).

I'm quite familiar with the mis-match. I use my middle name, and until recently, any look up provided my first name (I don't hide it, I just don't answer to it as no one calls me by that). Recently, thanks to Steve's (W3HF) instructions, I changed my listing to my first initial and middle name. Of course, those relying on look-ups now simply call me D. In fact, a couple days ago someone apologized and said they couldn't understand why the look-up didn't work, all they got was D. I got a chuckle out of that.

D (AKA Eric)/K9VIC

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 19, 2011, at 15:15, "N2MLP" <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Don't understand way so many operators want to hide their real names?

-----Original Message-----
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave
Wright
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Name Change

The FCC doesn't charge a cent. That links you to a secondary service that
will do it for you.

You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should
have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you
want to.

73,

----
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K3DCW

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On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com. You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an
$8 charge applies ! Only for FCC changes here in U.S. Guess I'll have to
live with people calling me by the wrong name. &#92;&#92;

Jerry, YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:

From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John
and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.

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Re: Name Change

Dave Wright <hfradiopro@...>
 

Here's how you change your name or address in the FCC ULS, and thus on QRZ. You need to have a valid address, so you can't leave it blank, but you can change your name to just about anything once you have a license.

In order to do this, you need to know your FCC Registration Number (FRN) and ULS Password.

If you don't have or know your FRN, do a search for your license at http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp. It will show your FRN, if you have one. If you don't, then you need to request one here: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/coresWeb/publicHome.do

If you don't remember your password, you can reset/request it here: https://esupport.fcc.gov/password.htm

1) Log into ULS/CORES: https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/licManager/login.jsp.

2) On the right is an option to "Work on this License". Choose "Update" to update the Licensee Name and Mailing Address

3) You update the info you need to (name, or address, or whatever) and select Next

4) It will show a summary. Select "Continue to Certify"

5) "Sign" the information with your name. For Title, you should use "Wireless Licensee"

6) Click "Submit Application"

You're done. GIve it a few days to update in the FCC database, and then a few more to promulgate to the QRZ database, and you should be good to go.

73

----
Dave Wright
K3DCW

Real rado bounces off the sky


Re: Name Change

Jerry N9AVY
 

Then ... you're too lazy to have any interest in a QSO !

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, N2MLP <n2mlp@...> wrote:


From: N2MLP <n2mlp@...>
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 3:22 PM


If I have your call sign
Name
Address
And a lot more easy to come by






-----Original Message-----
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of chris
g7ogx
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:20 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change


Call me old fashioned, but it may be to protect the innocent!

Chris/Dad/G7OGX


There's a little city flower every spring unveiling..  Growing in the
crevices by some London railing.  Tho` it has a latin name, in town and
countryside, we in England call it, London Pride..

To: 070@...
From: n2mlp@...
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change






















 


   
     
     
      Don't  understand way so many operators  want to hide their real
names?



-----Original Message-----

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave

Wright

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM

To: 070@...

Subject: Re: [070] Name Change



The FCC doesn't charge a cent.  That links you to a secondary service that

will do it for you. 



You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should

have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you

want to.



73,



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K3DCW



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On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:



I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com.  You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an

$8 charge applies !  Only for FCC changes here in U.S.    Guess I'll have to

live with people calling me by the wrong name.  &#92;&#92;

 
Jerry,   YVA9N
--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:
From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details.  My full name is William John but I am always known as John

and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.

Regards,
John.
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Re: Name Change

Jerry N9AVY
 

Don't want to hide my real name, just prefer to be called "Jerry".  Only my Mother called me "Jerald" when she was mad at me. 
 
But really, it's all about common courtesy of repeating back the name that was sent.  If they can't copy that they should ask for me to repeat name.  Or is that too simple ???
 
I just want to feel like I'm talking to a real person and nolt some robot..
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, N2MLP <n2mlp@...> wrote:


From: N2MLP <n2mlp@...>
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 3:15 PM


Don't  understand way so many operators  want to hide their real names?

-----Original Message-----
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave
Wright
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Name Change

The FCC doesn't charge a cent.  That links you to a secondary service that
will do it for you. 

You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should
have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you
want to.

73,

----
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K3DCW

Real rado bounces off the sky


On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com.  You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an
$8 charge applies !  Only for FCC changes here in U.S.    Guess I'll have to
live with people calling me by the wrong name.  &#92;&#92;
 
Jerry,   YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:

From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details.  My full name is William John but I am always known as John
and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.

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Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Steve W3HF
 

Adam -

Great observation. If I'm in contest mode, or just trying to get WoTM or BINGO credit, I'm less interested in chit-chat. I just want a "legal QSO" as you put it. And I'll often/usually ignore the "small talk" and try to move on to the next contact as quickly as I politely can.

Other times I'll have other objectives, and will be more willing to ragchew. In those cases, I guess I expect the other op to pay attention to what I say (and call me Steve instead of Stephen). But even if they don't, I try not to let it get to me.

The ones that bug me are the ones that insist on calling me William. This indicates they're using a callbook CD from more than 11 years ago. (The previous holder of W3HF was William Klugh, who died in 1997. I was issued this call in Sept 2000.) Fortunately this is becoming less and less common.

Steve
W3HF

--- In 070@..., "Adam Mercier" <adam@...> wrote:

Interesting discussion..I think it all comes down to conflicting goals in
the QSO. If you're looking to make a legal contact--and there is NOTHING
wrong with that-you are likely only concerned with getting a correct call
and signal report (or whatever exchange is required by the contest/operating
event). That's fine. However, those who are roaming the bands looking to
make a personal connection with someone over PSK-31-which, again,there is
NOTHING wrong with-would probably appreciate the minimum courtesy of getting
the name correct as they send it. If you just automate your response and
throw out some name from a database because that's what your macro does,
it's much like having a conversation with someone face-to-face and the
person you're talking to isn't even paying attention to you because they are
texting or looking off into the distance or something.It just comes down to
common courtesy.

Again, there is nothing wrong with either side--making a
minimum legal contact or trying to make a personal connection-but understand
that if the other station isn't after the same thing you are, there may be
some unintended negative perceptions. Just be aware.



Re-engage lurking mode.



Adam, K7FLI #1310


Re: Name Change

Brian (N2MLP)
 

If I have your call sign
Name
Address
And a lot more easy to come by

-----Original Message-----
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of chris
g7ogx
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:20 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change


Call me old fashioned, but it may be to protect the innocent!

Chris/Dad/G7OGX


There's a little city flower every spring unveiling.. Growing in the
crevices by some London railing. Tho` it has a latin name, in town and
countryside, we in England call it, London Pride..

To: 070@...
From: n2mlp@...
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change




























Don't understand way so many operators want to hide their real
names?



-----Original Message-----

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave

Wright

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM

To: 070@...

Subject: Re: [070] Name Change



The FCC doesn't charge a cent. That links you to a secondary service that

will do it for you.



You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should

have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you

want to.



73,



----

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K3DCW



Real rado bounces off the sky



On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:



I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com. You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an

$8 charge applies ! Only for FCC changes here in U.S. Guess I'll have to

live with people calling me by the wrong name. &#92;&#92;

Jerry, YVA9N
--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:
From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John

and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.

Regards,
John.
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Re: Name Change

chris g7ogx
 

Call me old fashioned, but it may be to protect the innocent!

Chris/Dad/G7OGX


There's a little city flower every spring unveiling.. Growing in the crevices by some London railing. Tho` it has a latin name, in town and countryside, we in England call it, London Pride..

To: 070@...
From: n2mlp@...
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:15:30 -0400
Subject: RE: [070] Name Change




























Don't understand way so many operators want to hide their real names?

-----Original Message-----

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave

Wright

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM

To: 070@...

Subject: Re: [070] Name Change



The FCC doesn't charge a cent. That links you to a secondary service that

will do it for you.



You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should

have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you

want to.



73,



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K3DCW



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On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:



I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com. You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an

$8 charge applies ! Only for FCC changes here in U.S. Guess I'll have to

live with people calling me by the wrong name. &#92;&#92;

Jerry, YVA9N
--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:
From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM
Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John

and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.

Regards,
John.
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Re: Name Change

Jerry N9AVY
 

Interesting.  Thanks Dave !

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, Dave Wright <hfradiopro@...> wrote:


From: Dave Wright <hfradiopro@...>
Subject: Re: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 3:10 PM


The FCC doesn't charge a cent.  That links you to a secondary service that will do it for you. 

You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you want to.

73,

----
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K3DCW

Real rado bounces off the sky


On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com.  You have to look closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an $8 charge applies !  Only for FCC changes here in U.S.    Guess I'll have to live with people calling me by the wrong name.  &#92;&#92;
 
Jerry,   YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:

From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their licence details.  My full name is William John but I am always known as John and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.

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Re: Name Change

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Don't understand way so many operators want to hide their real names?

-----Original Message-----
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Dave
Wright
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:11 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Name Change

The FCC doesn't charge a cent. That links you to a secondary service that
will do it for you.

You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should
have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you
want to.

73,

----
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K3DCW

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On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com. You have to look
closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an
$8 charge applies ! Only for FCC changes here in U.S. Guess I'll have to
live with people calling me by the wrong name. &#92;&#92;

Jerry, YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:

From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their
licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John
and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.



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Re: Name Change

Dave Wright <hfradiopro@...>
 

The FCC doesn't charge a cent. That links you to a secondary service that will do it for you.

You can go onto the FCC ULS and using the account information you should have (or you can request it from the FCC), you can make the change if you want to.

73,

----
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K3DCW

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On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Jerry wrote:

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com. You have to look closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an $8 charge applies ! Only for FCC changes here in U.S. Guess I'll have to live with people calling me by the wrong name. &#92;&#92;

Jerry, YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:

From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.

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Re: Name Change

Jerry N9AVY
 

I went to see if I could change my name on QRZ.com.  You have to look closely, but in the upper righthand corner there is small print that says an $8 charge applies !  Only for FCC changes here in U.S.    Guess I'll have to live with people calling me by the wrong name.  &#92;&#92;
 
Jerry,   YVA9N

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...> wrote:


From: G4TGK@... <G4TGK@...>
Subject: [070] Name Change
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 10:39 AM





Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their licence details.  My full name is William John but I am always known as John and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.




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Name Change

g4tgk
 

Hi,
'G' stations can change their name in QRZ.com without messing up their licence details. My full name is William John but I am always known as John and changed it on QRZ.com some time ago.
Regards,
John.


Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Adam Mercier, KM7N #1310
 

Interesting discussion..I think it all comes down to conflicting goals in
the QSO. If you're looking to make a legal contact--and there is NOTHING
wrong with that-you are likely only concerned with getting a correct call
and signal report (or whatever exchange is required by the contest/operating
event). That's fine. However, those who are roaming the bands looking to
make a personal connection with someone over PSK-31-which, again,there is
NOTHING wrong with-would probably appreciate the minimum courtesy of getting
the name correct as they send it. If you just automate your response and
throw out some name from a database because that's what your macro does,
it's much like having a conversation with someone face-to-face and the
person you're talking to isn't even paying attention to you because they are
texting or looking off into the distance or something.It just comes down to
common courtesy.

Again, there is nothing wrong with either side--making a
minimum legal contact or trying to make a personal connection-but understand
that if the other station isn't after the same thing you are, there may be
some unintended negative perceptions. Just be aware.



Re-engage lurking mode.



Adam, K7FLI #1310



From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:13 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] I can't believe I saw it - again !





Been following this thread with some interest since I got home a few minutes
ago.

One of the things that struck me is that I now see a lot of QSOs where the
other station starts out with " Hello Jerald Heien". This seems like all
that impersonal mail we get in our mailboxes (USPS) every week. It's always
junk mail ! Which puts the spin on it that the other station really doesn't
care about a QSO or who we are. It's just cold and impersonal.

I think a few caught on to this from this thread. It's no longer about a
friendly contact, it's about just making the contact ... very much like "59
QSL ! " is in the DX circles. Don't know about everyone else, but I got on
PSK because of the friendly operators.

Why, why do we need to have our PSK software tied into databases anyhow ?
Sure it's a convenience, but if you make contact with someone and you get
all their info from a database, you might just quit there and move on.
While I'm at it the signal report doesn't matter ... everyone heard at
N9AVY is 599 ! Maybe I'll start giving out 119 to deserving operators !
Hah ! :-)

Yes, I use marcros because my typing stinks. When I was in High School, guys
didn't take typing, it was for girls who would be secretaries. Who would
have known that computers were just a few years away and every house would
have a keyboard ? So, I type with one finger of each hand and the space on
my radio cabinet is limited so my mouse ocassionally falls off and I have to
go mouse hunting, hi !

Jerry N9AVY
(Not Jerald !)










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Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Ben Hall
 

On 8/19/2011 7:08 AM, ve3oij wrote:
I really don't care what people put in the name field for me, it's the
callsign that's the relevant bit. I've seen people try the Fubar trick,
and I *always* let it go and don't say a thing.
I don't care either - my own mother doesn't get my name right half the time... ;)

thanks much and 73,
ben, kd5byb


Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Jerry N9AVY
 

Darin:
 
My legal name is "Jerald" and that is waht goes on all my legal documents. (FCC license, driver's license, etc. are legal documnents , right ?)   I've always gone by "Jerry" and all my friends know me as that.  If someone on the street calls out "Hey, Jerald" it doesn't register with me... they get ignored.
 
I guess it's really not a big issue, but it seems that poeple could go through the trouble of replying with the name that I give them over the air.  If they don't I assume that they are either lazy, dumb, new to hobby or just a LID ! 
 
Changing my name in FCC database means get my license reissued and then FCC will probably ask why I want to change name. It looks like a lot of hassle over a small issue.  I even tried putting something about it on my QRZ page, but it had no effect.  Maybe Industry Canada is easier to deal with, eh ?
 
Jerry  N9AVY
Jerry  N9AVY

--- On Fri, 8/19/11, ve3oij <ve3oij@...> wrote:


From: ve3oij <ve3oij@...>
Subject: [070] Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !
To: 070@...
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:08 AM


Personally, I let the DB lookup fill in the name.  I figure that if people are genuinely concerned that other people will get the wrong name from a database, then it's up to the individual to ensure their name is correct in the database, not blame database users for using themselves of the information available.

If I see a person's name is different than the DB entry, I'll go up and change it most of the time, but if condx are marginal, I might not see it.

I really don't care what people put in the name field for me, it's the callsign that's the relevant bit.  I've seen people try the Fubar trick, and I *always* let it go and don't say a thing.

Obviously this matter is very dear to some of you, which forces me to ask: why are your names not correct in the database.  Rather than berating other amateurs, your energy would seem to be better spent correcting the database.

If your driver's licence had the wrong name, you'd change it, yes?

Just a thought.

73 de VE3OIJ
-Darin

--- In 070@..., Jerry <n9avy@...> wrote:

While I'm on a rant....   worked two Italian stations in a row yesterday and gave my name as "Jerry"  ...  both came back with "Jerald" from database.  Makes you kinda wonder if these were automated QSOs, huh ?   Maybe I'll repeat their names back in a different form like "Fubar"  and see if I get a rise out of them !  :-)     

--- In 070@..., Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...> wrote:

I know many ops just don't care but I am with
you, My given name is Robert, been called Bob my whole life. When the
come back with Robert I know it is an op on autopilot.

73,
Bob N3PPH 853



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Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Dave Wright <hfradiopro@...>
 

Well said, except that US Hams can't change their entries on QRZ; they are
based upon the official FCC database, and that is usually based upon your
official name. So if your first name is William, even if you prefer Bill,
it is likely William in the FCC database, and thus William on QRZ.

It would be nice if QRZ allowed us to change at least our first name.

73

Dave
K3DCW

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Bill Baker <wg5t@...> wrote:

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WELL SAID, DASRIN....

----- Original Message -----
From: ve3oij
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:08 AM
Subject: [070] Re: I can't believe I saw it - again !

Personally, I let the DB lookup fill in the name. I figure that if people
are genuinely concerned that other people will get the wrong name from a
database, then it's up to the individual to ensure their name is correct in
the database, not blame database users for using themselves of the
information available.

If I see a person's name is different than the DB entry, I'll go up and
change it most of the time, but if condx are marginal, I might not see it.

I really don't care what people put in the name field for me, it's the
callsign that's the relevant bit. I've seen people try the Fubar trick, and
I *always* let it go and don't say a thing.

Obviously this matter is very dear to some of you, which forces me to ask:
why are your names not correct in the database. Rather than berating other
amateurs, your energy would seem to be better spent correcting the database.

If your driver's licence had the wrong name, you'd change it, yes?

Just a thought.

73 de VE3OIJ
-Darin

--- In 070@..., Jerry <n9avy@...> wrote:

While I'm on a rant.... worked two Italian stations in a row yesterday
and gave my name as "Jerry" ... both came back with "Jerald" from database.
Makes you kinda wonder if these were automated QSOs, huh ? Maybe I'll repeat
their names back in a different form like "Fubar" and see if I get a rise
out of them ! :-)

--- In 070@..., Bob N3PPH <rsheskin@...> wrote:

I know many ops just don't care but I am with
you, My given name is Robert, been called Bob my whole life. When the
come back with Robert I know it is an op on autopilot.

73,
Bob N3PPH 853
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