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Fw: [ARLHS] VE1CDD/P on PSK

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

I pick this up off the ARLHS reflector


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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
PODXS#751
ARLHS#1367

--- On Sun, 8/2/09, mike VA6FUN <mrtate@telus.net> wrote:


From: mike VA6FUN <mrtate@telus.net>
Subject: [ARLHS] VE1CDD/P on PSK
To: "BeaconBot" <ARLHS@mailman.qth.net>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 1:21 PM


Light Beacons and Ham Radio
Eyes and Ears for the World
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Hi all....I had an inquiry on what freq John was on. I just checked and he's still on the 20M waterfall at 17:18UTC. Set your TXCVR to 14.070Mhz...use multi-screen to read all traces on spectrum. He's on 14.071.12 according to my DigiPan scale.....but he may move around. Good luck!

Mike VA6FUN#1445
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Thialand on 20M

Phil <poliver5@...>
 

HS0ZBS on 20M + 1211. 579 into NM this morning


Phil - K1GMD


W4KRN please e-mail

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Karen I understand you'll be very busy in the next few days, but could you please drop me a line??? kc2gik@justinmattes.com
 
Thanks


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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
PODX#751




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N2S Stony Point Lighthouse activation APE REPORT

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Well the 10-70 Repeater Assoc.'s  second activation at Stony Point LH (USA-923) has come and gone.. This time the PSK WORKED!!  The weather was absolutely perfect which is a real rarity around these parts this summer. Sunny skies and a light breeze off the Hudson welcomed our eight radio operators to the Stony Point Lighthouse. We got going strong around 11AM EDT with phone,CW and ofcourse PSK-31. The staff at "little lighthouse that could"  was absolutely WONDERFUL in helping transport our equipment upto the pavillion (those electric cars NY State has at their parks are GREAT).
According to my log I have 21 QSO's which was great considering thhe short amount of time we were up there!.The Special  Event callsign N2S really helped out. I saw a few compiments abou it fly across the screen. As for the bands they were good we got into the midwest and even the north. I would like to thank all the PODXS members who spotted us. I got home to see quite a few spots waiting in my inbox, always a great thing to see. It was nice to be on the "other side" of a QSO for a change!!! Again THANK YOU all for working us and we'll definitely be on the air again next year!!
 I
 
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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
ARLHS#1367
PODXS#751


Re: Ape Report W7PSK

Jim K5SP
 

Wow Scotty. I was stationed on Whidbey back in 1967-1969. At that time
they had a Navcommsta Puget Sound on the seaplane base. I was a Navy
Radioman. I was a supervisor at the Transmitter site at Rocky Point.
Lived in Coupeville for awhile, and ended up moving to Oak Harbor to
finish my time on the island.

Jim, K5SP

w7psk wrote:



Thought I sent this to 070 looks like It went to contest :(. Oh and
Karen, this was in Lieu of Next week so delete the 8th (I cant get two
kitchen passes in a row <GRIN> ). THANKS !!!

APE was for Whidbey Island Washington, Island County, IOTA NA-065
I was also parked at Admiralty Head lighthouse which is USA-002 for
those that collect Light Houses.

I started out of the house at 6am to catch the 6:30 Ferry to Clinton
on the south side of Whidbey Island. I got to Admiralty head at about
7:20am but the gate said 8AM open. Oh goody. So I ran up to the local
town to see if the Hardware store was open. They since last year have
started closing on Saturday (what a dumb day to close). I wanted a
mounting pipe for the 4BTV as the one I had was a little short and
would put the base of the antenna below my tail gate.

Got back to the Light house park and gates were open so went in and
started setting up. Got the Antenna mounted but SWR was wonky but I
brought my Iron Horse 20m to mount in the CB mount (I use it for my RV
club). Antenna tuned fine and I got the Laptop out and connected the
DC adapter. HASH like a bear on the rig. Anyone have a good DC Power
supply for Laptops that doesn't make a ton of hash.

Well I called a few CQs and then got into a pattern of CQing and
looking at strong stations and then disconnecting and using the laptop
battery for weaker. A LOT of stations couldn't hear me. Anyway after a
while I checked and they had 110v near the rest room so I decided
about 10:15am to take a run up to Oak Harbor about 15m away to get a
100Ft ext cord, get some lunch and returned at 11.

Alas 0 power at that plug.

So finished up the day till 2pm when the Laptop was not going to
charge enough to run without stopping for an hour to recharge so
packed up and came home. Not many stations this year again but enough
to qualify for those that need it.

Soon as I figure out how to make a new location on my LOTW account Ill
post that. Sorry No EQSL. I will try to make a nice card for those
that send direct.

Here is the contacts
01-Aug-2009 15:18 14070 BPSK WT6X 599 599 Jose CN98
01-Aug-2009 16:15 14070 BPSK N3FX 599 599 Tony FM19
01-Aug-2009 16:17 14070 BPSK KQ7W 599 599 MATT CN87
01-Aug-2009 16:28 14070 BPSK WX6Y 599 599 EDDIE EM84
01-Aug-2009 16:31 14070 BPSK K7RE 599 599 Brian DN84
01-Aug-2009 16:43 14070 BPSK K8MV/KL7 599 599 Marty BP19
01-Aug-2009 18:07 14070 BPSK K0FBV 599 599 Vic EN41
01-Aug-2009 18:13 14070 BPSK KD4LCR 599 599 Jeremy EM04
01-Aug-2009 18:14 14070 BPSK KE5LLM/7 599 599 David CN88
01-Aug-2009 18:16 14070 BPSK KB1PSP 599 599 Bette EM14
01-Aug-2009 18:24 14070 BPSK WW2PT 599 599 Paul EM11
01-Aug-2009 18:24 14070 BPSK K0ACP 599 599 Art EN41
01-Aug-2009 18:40 14070 BPSK N3FX 599 599 Tony FM19
01-Aug-2009 18:49 14070 BPSK WG5T 599 599 Bill EM15
01-Aug-2009 18:50 14070 BPSK NO8R 599 599 DELOS EN73
01-Aug-2009 19:04 14070 BPSK KC0DJB 599 599 KEITH EN07
01-Aug-2009 19:14 14070 BPSK W6QE 599 599 Milt DM13
01-Aug-2009 19:22 14070 BPSK WB8MKH 599 599 DON EN75
01-Aug-2009 19:26 14070 BPSK WB4PPW 599 599 Rich EM73
01-Aug-2009 19:37 14070 BPSK W0GLB 599 599 Gordon DM78
01-Aug-2009 19:50 14070 BPSK AA9UF 599 599 JOHN EN50
01-Aug-2009 20:20 14070 BPSK KD7RX 599 599 JERRY DN62
01-Aug-2009 20:22 14070 BPSK WQ9Z 599 599 ROY EM58
01-Aug-2009 20:30 14070 BPSK N0IBT 599 599 Dave DM79


Ape Report W7PSK

Scotty W7PSK
 

Thought I sent this to 070 looks like It went to contest :(. Oh and Karen, this was in Lieu of Next week so delete the 8th (I cant get two kitchen passes in a row <GRIN> ). THANKS !!!


APE was for Whidbey Island Washington, Island County, IOTA NA-065
I was also parked at Admiralty Head lighthouse which is USA-002 for those that collect Light Houses.

I started out of the house at 6am to catch the 6:30 Ferry to Clinton on the south side of Whidbey Island. I got to Admiralty head at about 7:20am but the gate said 8AM open. Oh goody. So I ran up to the local town to see if the Hardware store was open. They since last year have started closing on Saturday (what a dumb day to close). I wanted a mounting pipe for the 4BTV as the one I had was a little short and would put the base of the antenna below my tail gate.

Got back to the Light house park and gates were open so went in and started setting up. Got the Antenna mounted but SWR was wonky but I brought my Iron Horse 20m to mount in the CB mount (I use it for my RV club). Antenna tuned fine and I got the Laptop out and connected the DC adapter. HASH like a bear on the rig. Anyone have a good DC Power supply for Laptops that doesn't make a ton of hash.

Well I called a few CQs and then got into a pattern of CQing and looking at strong stations and then disconnecting and using the laptop battery for weaker. A LOT of stations couldn't hear me. Anyway after a while I checked and they had 110v near the rest room so I decided about 10:15am to take a run up to Oak Harbor about 15m away to get a 100Ft ext cord, get some lunch and returned at 11.

Alas 0 power at that plug.

So finished up the day till 2pm when the Laptop was not going to charge enough to run without stopping for an hour to recharge so packed up and came home. Not many stations this year again but enough to qualify for those that need it.

Soon as I figure out how to make a new location on my LOTW account Ill post that. Sorry No EQSL. I will try to make a nice card for those that send direct.

Here is the contacts
01-Aug-2009 15:18 14070 BPSK WT6X 599 599 Jose CN98
01-Aug-2009 16:15 14070 BPSK N3FX 599 599 Tony FM19
01-Aug-2009 16:17 14070 BPSK KQ7W 599 599 MATT CN87
01-Aug-2009 16:28 14070 BPSK WX6Y 599 599 EDDIE EM84
01-Aug-2009 16:31 14070 BPSK K7RE 599 599 Brian DN84
01-Aug-2009 16:43 14070 BPSK K8MV/KL7 599 599 Marty BP19
01-Aug-2009 18:07 14070 BPSK K0FBV 599 599 Vic EN41
01-Aug-2009 18:13 14070 BPSK KD4LCR 599 599 Jeremy EM04
01-Aug-2009 18:14 14070 BPSK KE5LLM/7 599 599 David CN88
01-Aug-2009 18:16 14070 BPSK KB1PSP 599 599 Bette EM14
01-Aug-2009 18:24 14070 BPSK WW2PT 599 599 Paul EM11
01-Aug-2009 18:24 14070 BPSK K0ACP 599 599 Art EN41
01-Aug-2009 18:40 14070 BPSK N3FX 599 599 Tony FM19
01-Aug-2009 18:49 14070 BPSK WG5T 599 599 Bill EM15
01-Aug-2009 18:50 14070 BPSK NO8R 599 599 DELOS EN73
01-Aug-2009 19:04 14070 BPSK KC0DJB 599 599 KEITH EN07
01-Aug-2009 19:14 14070 BPSK W6QE 599 599 Milt DM13
01-Aug-2009 19:22 14070 BPSK WB8MKH 599 599 DON EN75
01-Aug-2009 19:26 14070 BPSK WB4PPW 599 599 Rich EM73
01-Aug-2009 19:37 14070 BPSK W0GLB 599 599 Gordon DM78
01-Aug-2009 19:50 14070 BPSK AA9UF 599 599 JOHN EN50
01-Aug-2009 20:20 14070 BPSK KD7RX 599 599 JERRY DN62
01-Aug-2009 20:22 14070 BPSK WQ9Z 599 599 ROY EM58
01-Aug-2009 20:30 14070 BPSK N0IBT 599 599 Dave DM79


N2S APE

Karen Russo
 

Justin KC2GIK as N2S (Stony Pt. Lighthouse) in NY is on 14.070.15 +1300hz. Waiting for all you 070'ers to give him a call !

73 - Karen W4KRN


Welcome New Member

J Budzowski <jbudzowski@...>
 

Pse welcome new 070 Club member Al WB4JJJ #985...73 de Jay N3DQU


W7PAQ/7 APE on 20M

Charlie Trice, K8IJ <ctrice@...>
 

Frank, W7PAQ/t is on 20M now: 14.070 + 1,900

Vy 73,

Charlie, K8IJ


HamSpots.net Back Online

Laurie, VK3AMA <groups5@...>
 

Hello everyone,

Sorry for the extended downtime of HamSpots.net

It is now back online.

Some things to note.

-- New simpler URLs for band/mode/group pages and rss feeds for each.
-- The 070 page URL is http://www.HamSpots.net/070/
-- The 070 RSS feed (of local spots) URL is
http://www.HamSpots.net/rss/070/
-- Spots are "Local" and don't go to the live "Cluster".
-- There is now a Cluster Feed suitably filtered for the appropriate
Band/mode display.
-- Auto lookup and display of 070 Club membership numbers in both Local
and Cluster displays.
-- 070 Club membership numbers are also included in the RSS feed of
Local spots.
-- You only need to "Sign In' if you want to post spots and messages.
-- Guest mode allows you to view spots without the need to "Sign In".
-- Your login Name & Callsign are remembered between browser sessions
(if you have cookies enabled).

I have tested the page layouts extensively in several modern standards
compliant browsers (Firefox, Safari, etc) as well as older versions of
Internet Explorer (which usually breaks page layouts). If you experience
broken pages/layouts, please let me know.

73 de Laurie, VK3AMA


Re: KC2GIK'S APE 8/1

Milton Garb <w6qe@...>
 

Sounds like a plan. Anyone still awake?
Milt.
W6QE

----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
To: 070 Group
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:17 PM
Subject: [070] KC2GIK'S APE 8/1


Ok

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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
PODXS#751 ARLHS#1367


KC2GIK'S APE 8/1

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Ok










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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
PODXS#751 ARLHS#1367


Re: Logging (was: 1000th member mark)

John Griswold <kk1x@...>
 

--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, Chuck n2eoc <n2eoc@...> wrote:

Justin, try genlog.
[snip]

________________________________
From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK <kc2gik@...>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 1000th member mark


Steve hit the nail right on the hail the problem is going to be >separating the log!! I don't have all the gadgets that you folk do. I >literally do it by hand.
[snip]

Digipan can, from the log window, export a text file that looks like
Date Time Freq Mode Call RST RST Name QTH
in a nice columnar format. Some free text editors (I like Notepad++) allow text manipulation in columns, so if you only wanted three of the columns, you could clip out the ones you don't want - easily. No muss, no fuss, no need to create HTML and/or Excel formats.

Oh, Digipan also exports ADIF format for interchange with other logging programs ( I use DXLab Suite's DXKeeper which is also free ). The tools are out there to make your lives easier.

http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/


Re: 1000th member mark

Karen Russo
 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sending MGL
Have fun !

73 - Karen W4KRN

May I ask a question, to perhaps simplify this coming weekend?
To Karen, W4KRN, our APE coordinator:
Is there anything wrong with an APE log submitted that by shear happenstance contains a maidenhead grid locator in the logged sequence?
Milton
W6QE

----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 1000th member mark

Steve hit the nail right on the hail the problem is going to be separating the log!! I don't have all the gadgets that you folk do. I literally do it by hand. No I don't mean pen and [paper, buy I open up the digipan *.log file in notepad and covert it to html AND Execel. It's a lot of work to do!! Ill sumbit my log for the APE only!!

**********************************
Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
070# 751

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

From: Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Re: 1000th member mark
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:17 PM

Justin -

Milton sent a response already (which I agree with), but here's my elaboration:

For the APEs we di CQ 070 APE or something like that and for the
hundred mark contests we do CQ 070 1000TH MEMBER.
It really doesn't matter what your CQ says. When I was APEing, I didn't put that in my CQ. After all, most of my QSOs had no idea what an APE was--if I HAD said "CQ APE", some people wouldn't have replied. (After all, they're not simians!)

And in a contest, there's no requirement to use any particular CQ. Many/most do, only to let people know that you want quick QSOs, with a specific exchange. But it's not necessary to call "CQ contest."

And here's a "secret": ANY QSO counts towards most contests if you and the other station exchange the correct info, even if the other station isn't in the contest, or doesn't even know that you are. If you ragchew with the other guy, and he tells you his name, his kids' names, his dog's name, his radio and antenna configuration, his town, his state, his educational background, his profession, etc, and you do the same, you can take credit for a contest QSO where the required info is "name and SPC"! Sure, it may take you 10 minutes for the QSO, but getting one QSO is better than calling "CQ contest" for the same time with no responses. And even if the guy says "no contest QSOs," you've given him the ragchew he wants, so he's happy too!

(But this doesn't work under two circumstances:

1. If the exchange requires info not usually exchanged in a ragchew, like an explicit prefix, or a serial number, or a member number, or the like. This weekend's Grip Dip is kind of in the middle--some ragchewers know and include their grid square, but if you have to ask for it, they'll know you're contesting.

2. If the contest requires "matching" QSOs, i.e., logs are cross-checked and only QSOs that are submitted by both sides count. That's not true of any 070 or TARA contest, but I vaguely recall one like that recently. (Maybe it was a Portuguese one in May?) In some of the "big" contests (CQWW, etc), you can get QSOs disqualified if you have too many QSOs with stations that only show up in your log and not in anyone else's.)

Also I just down know how the logging would work. Would you submit
2 different logs?
You wouldn't have to LOG the QSOs separately, but you'd probably have to submit separate logs (or more exactly, log extracts), for potentially multiple reasons:

- Different info might be required. For example, APE logs just have to show date, time, band, and callsign of station, and extraneous information is discouraged. Contest logs have to show exchange received.

- The recipients of the logs might be different. You send your APE log to the APE manager, but your contest log to the contest manager.

- Some QSOs might count for only one of the purposes, and not both. Your operating time frames might not perfectly overlap--the contest is only 24 hours long, but your APE extends longer than that (or over the edge). Or a QSO might not have exchanged all the information required for a contest contact, but it's good enough for APE.

But that just means you filter and parse your log file differently. After all, the "scoring" will be different--multipli ers and the like for a contest, but a simple QSO count for APE.

I have a master log file that contains every QSO I've had (since November 2000). Depending on my purpose, I extract files based on

- my location (APEs, other portable ops, etc)
- mode
- band
- date (e.g., for contest periods)
- etc

But I also agree that doing an APE during a contest greatly increases your likelihood of getting the number of QSOs required to have the APE count, especially if your APE is limited duration. If your APE is multiple days long, you won't have a problem with this. If your APE is only a few hours, it can be tough.

Steve
W3HF


Re: 1000th member mark

Chuck Kovacs
 

Justin, try genlog. can log contest or a general log type. the files are in txt form, which means excel can open them and save them as txt ,then u can use xcel for ur editing. it's how I do stuff for the number contest or the sprints were genlog has no format for those contest. oh and it's free. great little program.

n2eoc chuck




________________________________
From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK <kc2gik@justinmattes.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 1000th member mark


Steve hit the nail right on the hail the problem is going to be separating the log!! I don't have all the gadgets that you folk do. I literally do it by hand. No I don't mean pen and [paper, buy I open up the digipan *.log file in notepad and covert it to html AND Execel. It's a lot of work to do!! Ill sumbit my log for the APE only!!

************ ********* ********* ****
Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
070# 751

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

From: Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Re: 1000th member mark
To: 070@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:17 PM



Justin -

Milton sent a response already (which I agree with), but here's my elaboration:

For the APEs we di CQ 070 APE or something like that and for the
hundred mark contests we do CQ 070 1000TH MEMBER.
It really doesn't matter what your CQ says. When I was APEing, I didn't put that in my CQ. After all, most of my QSOs had no idea what an APE was--if I HAD said "CQ APE", some people wouldn't have replied. (After all, they're not simians!)

And in a contest, there's no requirement to use any particular CQ. Many/most do, only to let people know that you want quick QSOs, with a specific exchange. But it's not necessary to call "CQ contest."

And here's a "secret": ANY QSO counts towards most contests if you and the other station exchange the correct info, even if the other station isn't in the contest, or doesn't even know that you are. If you ragchew with the other guy, and he tells you his name, his kids' names, his dog's name, his radio and antenna configuration, his town, his state, his educational background, his profession, etc, and you do the same, you can take credit for a contest QSO where the required info is "name and SPC"! Sure, it may take you 10 minutes for the QSO, but getting one QSO is better than calling "CQ contest" for the same time with no responses. And even if the guy says "no contest QSOs," you've given him the ragchew he wants, so he's happy too!

(But this doesn't work under two circumstances:

1. If the exchange requires info not usually exchanged in a ragchew, like an explicit prefix, or a serial number, or a member number, or the like. This weekend's Grip Dip is kind of in the middle--some ragchewers know and include their grid square, but if you have to ask for it, they'll know you're contesting.

2. If the contest requires "matching" QSOs, i.e., logs are cross-checked and only QSOs that are submitted by both sides count. That's not true of any 070 or TARA contest, but I vaguely recall one like that recently. (Maybe it was a Portuguese one in May?) In some of the "big" contests (CQWW, etc), you can get QSOs disqualified if you have too many QSOs with stations that only show up in your log and not in anyone else's.)

Also I just down know how the logging would work. Would you submit
2 different logs?
You wouldn't have to LOG the QSOs separately, but you'd probably have to submit separate logs (or more exactly, log extracts), for potentially multiple reasons:

- Different info might be required. For example, APE logs just have to show date, time, band, and callsign of station, and extraneous information is discouraged. Contest logs have to show exchange received.

- The recipients of the logs might be different. You send your APE log to the APE manager, but your contest log to the contest manager.

- Some QSOs might count for only one of the purposes, and not both. Your operating time frames might not perfectly overlap--the contest is only 24 hours long, but your APE extends longer than that (or over the edge). Or a QSO might not have exchanged all the information required for a contest contact, but it's good enough for APE.

But that just means you filter and parse your log file differently. After all, the "scoring" will be different--multipli ers and the like for a contest, but a simple QSO count for APE.

I have a master log file that contains every QSO I've had (since November 2000). Depending on my purpose, I extract files based on

- my location (APEs, other portable ops, etc)
- mode
- band
- date (e.g., for contest periods)
- etc

But I also agree that doing an APE during a contest greatly increases your likelihood of getting the number of QSOs required to have the APE count, especially if your APE is limited duration. If your APE is multiple days long, you won't have a problem with this. If your APE is only a few hours, it can be tough.

Steve
W3HF


Re: 1000th member mark

Milton Garb <w6qe@...>
 

May I ask a question, to perhaps simplify this coming weekend?
To Karen, W4KRN, our APE coordinator:
Is there anything wrong with an APE log submitted that by shear happenstance contains a maidenhead grid locator in the logged sequence?
Milton
W6QE

----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 1000th member mark


Steve hit the nail right on the hail the problem is going to be separating the log!! I don't have all the gadgets that you folk do. I literally do it by hand. No I don't mean pen and [paper, buy I open up the digipan *.log file in notepad and covert it to html AND Execel. It's a lot of work to do!! Ill sumbit my log for the APE only!!

**********************************
Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
070# 751

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:

From: Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Re: 1000th member mark
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:17 PM



Justin -

Milton sent a response already (which I agree with), but here's my elaboration:

> For the APEs we di CQ 070 APE or something like that and for the
> hundred mark contests we do CQ 070 1000TH MEMBER.

It really doesn't matter what your CQ says. When I was APEing, I didn't put that in my CQ. After all, most of my QSOs had no idea what an APE was--if I HAD said "CQ APE", some people wouldn't have replied. (After all, they're not simians!)

And in a contest, there's no requirement to use any particular CQ. Many/most do, only to let people know that you want quick QSOs, with a specific exchange. But it's not necessary to call "CQ contest."

And here's a "secret": ANY QSO counts towards most contests if you and the other station exchange the correct info, even if the other station isn't in the contest, or doesn't even know that you are. If you ragchew with the other guy, and he tells you his name, his kids' names, his dog's name, his radio and antenna configuration, his town, his state, his educational background, his profession, etc, and you do the same, you can take credit for a contest QSO where the required info is "name and SPC"! Sure, it may take you 10 minutes for the QSO, but getting one QSO is better than calling "CQ contest" for the same time with no responses. And even if the guy says "no contest QSOs," you've given him the ragchew he wants, so he's happy too!

(But this doesn't work under two circumstances:

1. If the exchange requires info not usually exchanged in a ragchew, like an explicit prefix, or a serial number, or a member number, or the like. This weekend's Grip Dip is kind of in the middle--some ragchewers know and include their grid square, but if you have to ask for it, they'll know you're contesting.

2. If the contest requires "matching" QSOs, i.e., logs are cross-checked and only QSOs that are submitted by both sides count. That's not true of any 070 or TARA contest, but I vaguely recall one like that recently. (Maybe it was a Portuguese one in May?) In some of the "big" contests (CQWW, etc), you can get QSOs disqualified if you have too many QSOs with stations that only show up in your log and not in anyone else's.)

> Also I just down know how the logging would work. Would you submit
> 2 different logs?

You wouldn't have to LOG the QSOs separately, but you'd probably have to submit separate logs (or more exactly, log extracts), for potentially multiple reasons:

- Different info might be required. For example, APE logs just have to show date, time, band, and callsign of station, and extraneous information is discouraged. Contest logs have to show exchange received.

- The recipients of the logs might be different. You send your APE log to the APE manager, but your contest log to the contest manager.

- Some QSOs might count for only one of the purposes, and not both. Your operating time frames might not perfectly overlap--the contest is only 24 hours long, but your APE extends longer than that (or over the edge). Or a QSO might not have exchanged all the information required for a contest contact, but it's good enough for APE.

But that just means you filter and parse your log file differently. After all, the "scoring" will be different--multipli ers and the like for a contest, but a simple QSO count for APE.

I have a master log file that contains every QSO I've had (since November 2000). Depending on my purpose, I extract files based on

- my location (APEs, other portable ops, etc)
- mode
- band
- date (e.g., for contest periods)
- etc

But I also agree that doing an APE during a contest greatly increases your likelihood of getting the number of QSOs required to have the APE count, especially if your APE is limited duration. If your APE is multiple days long, you won't have a problem with this. If your APE is only a few hours, it can be tough.

Steve
W3HF


Re: 1000th member mark

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Steve hit the nail  right on the hail the problem is going to be separating the log!! I don't have all the gadgets that you folk do. I literally do it by hand. No I don't mean pen and [paper, buy I open up the digipan *.log file in notepad and covert it to html AND Execel. It's a lot of work to do!!  Ill sumbit my log for the APE only!!










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Justin Mattes,KC2GIK
070# 751

--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net> wrote:


From: Steve Melachrinos <w3hf@arrl.net>
Subject: [070] Re: 1000th member mark
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:17 PM


 



Justin -

Milton sent a response already (which I agree with), but here's my elaboration:

For the APEs we di CQ 070 APE or something like that and for the
hundred mark contests we do CQ 070 1000TH MEMBER.
It really doesn't matter what your CQ says. When I was APEing, I didn't put that in my CQ. After all, most of my QSOs had no idea what an APE was--if I HAD said "CQ APE", some people wouldn't have replied. (After all, they're not simians!)

And in a contest, there's no requirement to use any particular CQ. Many/most do, only to let people know that you want quick QSOs, with a specific exchange. But it's not necessary to call "CQ contest."

And here's a "secret": ANY QSO counts towards most contests if you and the other station exchange the correct info, even if the other station isn't in the contest, or doesn't even know that you are. If you ragchew with the other guy, and he tells you his name, his kids' names, his dog's name, his radio and antenna configuration, his town, his state, his educational background, his profession, etc, and you do the same, you can take credit for a contest QSO where the required info is "name and SPC"! Sure, it may take you 10 minutes for the QSO, but getting one QSO is better than calling "CQ contest" for the same time with no responses. And even if the guy says "no contest QSOs," you've given him the ragchew he wants, so he's happy too!

(But this doesn't work under two circumstances:

1. If the exchange requires info not usually exchanged in a ragchew, like an explicit prefix, or a serial number, or a member number, or the like. This weekend's Grip Dip is kind of in the middle--some ragchewers know and include their grid square, but if you have to ask for it, they'll know you're contesting.

2. If the contest requires "matching" QSOs, i.e., logs are cross-checked and only QSOs that are submitted by both sides count. That's not true of any 070 or TARA contest, but I vaguely recall one like that recently. (Maybe it was a Portuguese one in May?) In some of the "big" contests (CQWW, etc), you can get QSOs disqualified if you have too many QSOs with stations that only show up in your log and not in anyone else's.)

Also I just down know how the logging would work. Would you submit
2 different logs?
You wouldn't have to LOG the QSOs separately, but you'd probably have to submit separate logs (or more exactly, log extracts), for potentially multiple reasons:

- Different info might be required. For example, APE logs just have to show date, time, band, and callsign of station, and extraneous information is discouraged. Contest logs have to show exchange received.

- The recipients of the logs might be different. You send your APE log to the APE manager, but your contest log to the contest manager.

- Some QSOs might count for only one of the purposes, and not both. Your operating time frames might not perfectly overlap--the contest is only 24 hours long, but your APE extends longer than that (or over the edge). Or a QSO might not have exchanged all the information required for a contest contact, but it's good enough for APE.

But that just means you filter and parse your log file differently. After all, the "scoring" will be different--multipli ers and the like for a contest, but a simple QSO count for APE.

I have a master log file that contains every QSO I've had (since November 2000). Depending on my purpose, I extract files based on

- my location (APEs, other portable ops, etc)
- mode
- band
- date (e.g., for contest periods)
- etc

But I also agree that doing an APE during a contest greatly increases your likelihood of getting the number of QSOs required to have the APE count, especially if your APE is limited duration. If your APE is multiple days long, you won't have a problem with this. If your APE is only a few hours, it can be tough.

Steve
W3HF



















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Re: To the APE GODS

Scotty W7PSK
 

Dont Mention it

But Please, TAKE IT BACK.





________________________________
From: Jim Innis <jinnis@swbell.net>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:05:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] To the APE GODS

Scotty, I see on the weather where you are having our normal Texas
weather lately, and we are having some cool weather.

Thanks for swapping with us.

Jim, K5SP

Rick Scott wrote:


My oringinal Light House APE I thought was the 1st, but it appears on
the page as the 7th (actually would have been Saturday the 8th).

I am in a situation, My mother-in-law has been staying with us since
December as she has Alzheimer Disease. Her two sisters are flying in
on Friday night and Saturday morning
to have a large pow wow over current and future affairs. I shouldnt be
near the house at that time.

SOO

I am asking the powers that be if it would be OK if I pack up the
stuff and go over to Admiralty Head Light house (LHOTH USA-02) on
Whidbey Island (NA-065, Island County) this
Saturday 1 August from about 7:30am PDT until about 2 to 4pm
(depending on heat and how I feel).

Thanks
Scotty W7PSK








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Re: To the APE GODS

Jim K5SP
 

Scotty, I see on the weather where you are having our normal Texas
weather lately, and we are having some cool weather.

Thanks for swapping with us.

Jim, K5SP

Rick Scott wrote:



My oringinal Light House APE I thought was the 1st, but it appears on
the page as the 7th (actually would have been Saturday the 8th).

I am in a situation, My mother-in-law has been staying with us since
December as she has Alzheimer Disease. Her two sisters are flying in
on Friday night and Saturday morning
to have a large pow wow over current and future affairs. I shouldnt be
near the house at that time.

SOO

I am asking the powers that be if it would be OK if I pack up the
stuff and go over to Admiralty Head Light house (LHOTH USA-02) on
Whidbey Island (NA-065, Island County) this
Saturday 1 August from about 7:30am PDT until about 2 to 4pm
(depending on heat and how I feel).

Thanks
Scotty W7PSK




Re: To the APE GODS

Karen Russo
 

Scotty is hereby granted permission. Look for him APE'ing
from the lighthouse.

73 - Karen W4KRN


My oringinal Light House APE I thought was the 1st, but it appears on the page as the 7th (actually would have been Saturday the 8th).

I am in a situation, My mother-in-law has been staying with us since December as she has Alzheimer Disease. Her two sisters are flying in on Friday night and Saturday morning
to have a large pow wow over current and future affairs. I shouldnt be near the house at that time.

SOO

I am asking the powers that be if it would be OK if I pack up the stuff and go over to Admiralty Head Light house (LHOTH USA-02) on Whidbey Island (NA-065, Island County) this
Saturday 1 August from about 7:30am PDT until about 2 to 4pm (depending on heat and how I feel).

Thanks
Scotty W7PSK