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Re: Ludeks Pictures

Zoltan Bordas <borzol@...>
 

 
Sometimes I've taken screen shots of the other station and e-mailed it to them to let them see what they looked like at the other end of the spectrum.  I've received many e-mails thanking me and that the screen shot helped them solve their problem.
 
I'd like also a photo, hi hi.
 
73 de Zoli / YO5CRQ
 


Re: Ludeks Pictures

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Thanks, Duncan...
 
I took a look at the document while on-line, but saved it and will read it more thoroughly after I get off.  It looks like something that a lot of folks should read.  Sometimes all of our signals get a little "wide" in the excitement of things.  I have learned to look at the ALC meter and reduce things so that I have no more than 20-25 watts out and no ALC indication.  That seems to help.  At least I've not had any complaints about my on screen waterfall at the other end. 
 
Sometimes I've taken screen shots of the other station and e-mailed it to them to let them see what they looked like at the other end of the spectrum.  I've received many e-mails thanking me and that the screen shot helped them solve their problem.
 
All the best Jungle Telegraph man.
 
73,
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Duncan
Cc: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Ludeks Pictures

Hi Jay!
Nope! If you study the pictures carefully, even though the traces are very red, you
can see that the signals are way out past the 'twin carrier lines'. This is definitely
the fault of the transmission, not the reception. I have seen this on a lot of signals,
not anywhere near that strong.
Such signals utterly destroy the chance of working weak signals on the frequency!

I have written a little 'thesis' This is attached in MS Word as a Text document.

73s de Duncan Jungle Telegraph



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seeking 070 club members from Atlanta GA, USA

andris.brunenieks@...
 

Hallo,

Is there in 070 club somebody from Atlanta, GA USA?

Its planned that I stay in this city from 11 till 22 of May.

That's can be a good opportunity meet You last year TDW European winner (Hi!).


Andris / YL2FD


Re: Ludeks Pictures

Duncan <zl3jt@...>
 

Hi Jay!
Nope! If you study the pictures carefully, even though the traces are very red, you
can see that the signals are way out past the 'twin carrier lines'. This is definitely
the fault of the transmission, not the reception. I have seen this on a lot of signals,
not anywhere near that strong.
Such signals utterly destroy the chance of working weak signals on the frequency!

I have written a little 'thesis' This is attached in MS Word as a Text document.

73s de Duncan Jungle Telegraph



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Unfortunately... Ludek has right...

Zoltan Bordas <borzol@...>
 

Ludik's pictures appear to be taken off the screen of DigiPan, or a very
similar program. I have used DigiPan since the very beginning, and yes,
turning down the gain (waterfall drive), will take the red out, but it
WILL
NOT narrow a signal that is being overdriven by the sender. If more
operators
would read the manuals or information that comes with their programs, and
if
they heed what they read, we would not see such WIDE BAND signals on PSK.
A
simple look at the ALC meter, or perhaps a response to someone suggesting
they turn down the audio from the computer, would eliminate these crummy
signals. I give Ludik a four star rating for his efforts to bring this
problem to the forefront. best 73 to all from
KA3X, Jay (070 club)
... and agree 100% with Jay...

I attach 3 snapshots taken yesterday evening:
1. a normal input level setup
2. a strongly overdriven input
3. a more higher signal at the input of the soundcard

It is noticeable that the spectrum in the waterfall is NOT the same as
Ludek's snapshot. My input is clearly overdriven, but other signals are
readable, and Ludek's signal is very wide destroying the whole band and
superimposing on other signals making the copy impossible. You cannot make
any further improvement to work near such a "trace". I see many times
signals like that, and yes, a little more knowledge about the theory of this
mode and more attention can make life much pleasant...

73 de Zoli / YO5CRQ


Re: CQC PSK31 Kontest

JHudak3rd@...
 

Steve,
By the powers invested in me by the travelers of the ionosphere, I hereby
assign you the temporary name of "Stroker", or sumthin' like that, for a
period to be determined by a vote of the 070 Worldwide group. All in
favor.......

da OD, (Old Dood),

KA3X


Re: New contest category ....

JHudak3rd@...
 

Ludik's pictures appear to be taken off the screen of DigiPan, or a very
similar program. I have used DigiPan since the very beginning, and yes,
turning down the gain (waterfall drive), will take the red out, but it WILL
NOT narrow a signal that is being overdriven by the sender. If more operators
would read the manuals or information that comes with their programs, and if
they heed what they read, we would not see such WIDE BAND signals on PSK. A
simple look at the ALC meter, or perhaps a response to someone suggesting
they turn down the audio from the computer, would eliminate these crummy
signals. I give Ludik a four star rating for his efforts to bring this
problem to the forefront. best 73 to all from
KA3X, Jay (070 club)


Re: CQC PSK31 Kontest

Steve W3HF
 

--- In 070@y..., DL2AYL@t... wrote:
Hi Steve,
I'd be ready to change my name to Xanthippe...
Erika/DL2AYL
Since it seems a number of stations get special callsigns for use in
the WPX contests, maybe we can get the operators to get special names
for this contest!

I wonder how to get a temporary name assigned ...... :-)

Steve


Re: New contest category ....

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Ludik, it looks like (to me at least) that you have your receiver gain turned up way too high.  Back off the gain. 
73,
 

----- Original Message -----
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:03 AM
Subject: [070] New contest category ....

Pse create new contest category for "full band" stations.
How much there stations can work on one band ? ........
Pse look these pictures


                                                73, Ludek OK1VSL



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Re: CQC PSK31 Kontest

DL2AYL@...
 

Hi Steve,
I'd be ready to change my name to Xanthippe...
Erika/DL2AYL


CQC PSK31 Kontest

Steve W3HF
 

Okay, time to move on to the next contest (or should that be kontest?)

Has anyone else noticed the funny twist in the CQC Kontest scoring? A
few of you have commented on the unusual exchange (RST, S/P/C, name,
CQC # or power, rig) but I haven't seen anything on the score
calculations.

Turns out that there are two multiplier totals--S/P/C and names! You
get to count how many different first letters of names you work, up
to 26. (This is kind of like WPX, but with names, not callsigns.) So
the total score is QSO points x S/P/C x names.

I just looked at my log for the Rumble, and counted 15 different
initials for first names, so I'd end up with an extra x15 multiplier.
Of course, I got 15 over a 24-hour period, and the CQC Kontest is a
six-hour sprint, so it may be difficult to find many letters.

Looks like I'll be on the lookout for Quincy, Xavier, Zeke!

One final note--I don't see anything in the rules about working
stations once only, or once per band, or whether the S/P/C
multipliers are per band. Anyone know?

Steve
W3HF


Re: Ludeks Pictures

"Luděk Salač <ludek.salac@...>
 

My antenna 4el. QUAD for 20/15/10 m
2 el. QUAD fix W + 2 el. QUAD fix JA for 40m
inv. V for 80m
... all 40-45m high

TRX IC746, HI MF filter 250 Hz + LOW MF filter 150 Hz ( pictures is filter clear ..)


Ludek, OK1VSL

zl3jt@zfree.co.nz 23.4.02 11:53 >>>
de Jungle Telegraph
All is not good in Europe...I have never seen a red trace on my screen! Ludek must
have the biggest antenna, with the most gain to get red traces....Hi!
I suppose these people will be in the 'Great' category?
Seriously, that's appalling operation of PSK to the detriment of other operators
on the frequency...
The pictures tell all. I must say that one of them was making it all the way to New
Zealand from Eastern Europe, but not readable but I knew who he was from the stations
he 'worked'...
Apart from that Ludek I hope you did well!
73s Duncan


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Re: Ludeks Pictures

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hi Ludek,
The only time I have seen traces like that was when I was overdriving the
waterfall with the receive audio. All I had to do is turn down the gain in
the "Audio Properties" window from the receiver to the sound card input. No
more Red signals unless someone is REAL loud. Hope this helps.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: CQC PSK31 Kontest

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Steve,
Ask Zoli to get on.
Jay - AA8QQ


Ludeks Pictures

Duncan <zl3jt@...>
 

de Jungle Telegraph
All is not good in Europe...I have never seen a red trace on my screen! Ludek must
have the biggest antenna, with the most gain to get red traces....Hi!
I suppose these people will be in the 'Great' category?
Seriously, that's appalling operation of PSK to the detriment of other operators
on the frequency...
The pictures tell all. I must say that one of them was making it all the way to New
Zealand from Eastern Europe, but not readable but I knew who he was from the stations
he 'worked'...
Apart from that Ludek I hope you did well!
73s Duncan


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New contest category ....

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Re: Last Yrs Scores

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Hi Steve,
Let me check through the computer. I changed my system at rumble 6 and
on. Hope I still have the old stuff in the archives. Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen J. Melachrinos" <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Last Yrs Scores


Ernie -

Thanks for the page. Now for the big question: Do you still have the
scores from Rumbles 1 through 5? I know I saw the scores for #5,
since that was the one I won in Super. But I'm not sure I ever saw
the scores for the previous ones.

It seems to me that a Rumble Scores History would be neat to
have on your web site. Simply leaving the pages online
(results01.html, results02.html, etc), with a simple index page,
would be enough.

I would love to be able to review how the number of entries
progressed, how the scores progressed, etc.

Thanks for considering this.

Steve


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Re: Last Yrs Scores

Steve W3HF
 

Ernie -

Thanks for the page. Now for the big question: Do you still have the
scores from Rumbles 1 through 5? I know I saw the scores for #5,
since that was the one I won in Super. But I'm not sure I ever saw
the scores for the previous ones.

It seems to me that a Rumble Scores History would be neat to
have on your web site. Simply leaving the pages online
(results01.html, results02.html, etc), with a simple index page,
would be enough.

I would love to be able to review how the number of entries
progressed, how the scores progressed, etc.

Thanks for considering this.

Steve


Re: Last Yrs Scores

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Hi Jay!
These are last years scores in HTML. if you need conversion let me know. 73
Ernie

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Cc: <psk-tara@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:58 PM
Subject: [070] Last Yrs Scores


Does anyone have last years scores saved? I'd like to see them for
comparison.

Jay - AA8QQ



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Re: Lessons Learned

Steve W3HF
 

I find the comments about QRP PSK interesting
particularly from people with outdoor antennas and
even beams. Try a real challenge that Steve (W3HF) and
I live with -- attic antennas. My goal, watch out for
the next one Steve, is to beat W3HF.

73 Dave WB5NHL (Always 5 watts or less)
Oops. Sorry Dave. (Yours is in a batch I haven't read yet.)

There are two responses that are always QRP.

Steve
W3HF