The Romanians are back!

Today (Saturday morning UTC) I found YO8FZ
on 14071.2 with a 599 signal. I even spotted
him to the DX-cluster!

Costas SV1XV




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At 22:49 8/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:

I'm asking this question very seriously and in no way do I mean for it to be
rude or degrading to anyone or anything, but what is so special about the
ARRL's DXCC award ?

In the past, it was quite an achievement (especially for
North American hams) to contact 100 countries and it was
the first major milestone in their DX "career" which
led into the Honor Roll.

Of course this is no longer the case, as good operators with
medium class stations get more than 100 countries in a
contest weekend. I did 52 countries and 6 continents in
BARTG RTTY Sprint last January and I run only 100 W on
a vertical.

Is it because that you have to wait a year or more to get conformation of
some of your contacts, or is it because it is so hard to get people to send
a QSL at all, or what is it ??

Getting the cards is the major difficulty nowdays. US hams
are lucky as they receive many QSL cards via the bureau because
their contacts count for the prestigious "Worked All States"
(WAS) and Counties awards. In SV-land, we get very few
replies via bureau.

I have not applied for DXCC, because I am worried that
I might loose my cards (collected direct at high cost)
in the mail. I hope some day ARRL shall agree to accept
a list of QSL cards endorsed by the national society of
the applicant.

Costas SV1XV



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de Jungle Telegraph
Bernie! Exactly! You've got it!
73s


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Erika,

Yep, it looks like we're slowly getting the old boy figured out. I just
can't figure out how he does it.
I'm glad he didn't put the same kybosh on the Lower 48 endorsment, or
he'd have the whole USA shut down.

73 , Bernie / KF4FHS

Steve,

I bet you're right. Jay has , no doubt, got something worked out with
those guys, just to frustrate us. He sure does have a lot of influence on
the PSK community to be able to make whole countries stay off the air :-)

73, Bernie / KF4FHS

Yes Bernie,
I wondered about that before you and actually Romania
is just down the street here, if there are some on the band, I'll find them.
But it was the same with the Spaniards, when Jay announced the EA Special,
the EA's disappeared from the bands. But after a while they will come back
though, just need one more call area for the
YO-endorsement, keep looking out for them!
Erika/DL2AYL

I'm asking this question very seriously and in no way do I mean for it to be
rude or degrading to anyone or anything, but what is so special about the
ARRL's DXCC award ?
Is it because that you have to wait a year or more to get conformation of
some of your contacts, or is it because it is so hard to get people to send
a QSL at all, or what is it ??
I'm also having a little trouble figuring out how a card with all the
information printed, using a home computer, and sent via the Post Office, be
any more "legitimate" than a verified e-QSL, unless they are thinking that
somehow the postmark would help legitimize it, and if the card had been sent
in an envelope there wouldn't be a postmark on it.
eQSL requires that you send either a scan of your Ham license e-mailed to
them or a copy mailed to them, before you are eligible for any of their
awards, and only cards that have been verified in this manner will be
credited to your award standings. Am I right in thinking that the ARRL does
not require any sort of verification of any kind, other than the card was
sent through the mail?

It's sure got this old misplaced hillbilly puzzled.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA

At 21:18 8/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:

SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?

I have seen (but not worked) 3A2MW. Never have seen a SV9, 1A0
or ZA on PSK.

OK, I have 3A2MW confirmed in PSK-31 on May 25, 2001. ZA has not
appeared yet.

But SY is also Greece, same as SV. Did you mean something else?

Perhaps he means Mt.Athos. There is only one operator there,
SV2ASP/A, who is not active in PSK-31 (yet).

Costas SV1XV



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At 19:18 8/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.

Yes, a few days ago I had an SSB QSO on 80 m with YR20T (two zero),
a special event station at Carancebes, SW Romania.

Costas SV1XV



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de Jungle Telegraph
The ARRL statement re acceptable QSL methods, is 'gobble-de-gook'! This ARRL committee,
DXCC, will accept cards from applicants, that they have received from ZL3JT, only
if those cards are posted in the mail system. The ARRL has never checked on my 'authenticity'
to my knowledge, or, in fact anybody else, unless they 'operate' from a rare entity!

If a station is 'suspect' when one submits a card for credit, the 'suspect' station
or operator is required to submit copies of licenses, travel documents etc.
My card at eqsl.cc should be acceptable, because I have Authenticity Guaranteed at
eqsl.cc! In other words eqsl.cc has seen a copy of my genuine Amateur Radio License...
The ARRL hasn't!
If ARRL cared about their own membership, they will organise access to the Log Data
Base at eqsl.cc!
Irrespective of any method of confirmation of qsos, there will be those that 'cheat'....so
what? If they do, who cares? The Cheats are only cheating themselves in order to
raise their position on the 'EGO' list...
Then, of course, I haven't considered the multi-million dollar card printing business,
have I?
73s Duncan


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SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?

I have C31BO on 10 and 20; TF3VS on 20; ER1DX, ER2NB, and
ER3KS on 20; CU2AT and CU3FV on 20 and CU3BL on 10; and
HB0/DL1RWB on 20.

I have seen (but not worked) 3A2MW. Never have seen a SV9, 1A0
or ZA on PSK.

But SY is also Greece, same as SV. Did you mean something else?

Steve
W3HF

ok well I think it isn't a prefix but it is numeral letter combition
though . And hey check out 12m guys lots of grt opertinuties for long
haul DX wrked Morroco ,Oman ,TA,UA9,lots of Russians SV, well abt the
whole European contient on 12m except a few hard to get ones like
SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?

I thought Romania only had one prefix I know they are at least 5

or

6 call areas but not a prefix this is a prefix kf ,kg ,wb call

areas

are number indentifier like 1,2,3 or kg5 or kg6

Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.

But in the prefix-counting sense, the call district is included in

the

prefix. (See, for example, the rules for the CQ WPX series, or the
PODXS DPX awards, for a detailed description.)

So include the number. I've worked YO2, YO3, YO4, YO5, YO6,
YO8, and YO9, but unfortunately only two of them since 19 Jan
2002. :-(

73,
Steve
W3HF

I think you're right, Steve. You guys sure do pick on us poor ole
Westcoasters. Next time ship them diodes down South.
Man, it was just like somebody flipped a switch, when Jay announced that
YO's would be good for an endorsment. I've seen several people workin YO's
but I can only see the one side of the QSO. I wonder if they're really
talking to them or just acting like it to make me feel bad ?
73, Bernie

I think you guys are pullin my leg.

I believe that as of 19 Jan. all callsigns starting with a "Y" were
cancelled, and I'm beginning to wonder now if Romania is still a
country.

If I could get one of them fellers who used to have one of them "Y"
calls,
to e-mail me, could I count that as a contact :-)

Still way up here in the Northwest, wondering "Y" can't I see one,

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA

Bernie -

Looks like you got the shipment of Romanian diodes that was
supposed to go to Steve 'YIH. The German ones worked last year,
but he blew through the JAs in January faster than we could get the
Japanese ones installed.

Maybe this means he'll have a shot at this one, since the diodes
ended up in WA instead of ID.

Steve

I think you guys are pullin my leg.

I believe that as of 19 Jan. all callsigns starting with a "Y" were
cancelled, and I'm beginning to wonder now if Romania is still a country.

If I could get one of them fellers who used to have one of them "Y" calls,
to e-mail me, could I count that as a contact :-)

Still way up here in the Northwest, wondering "Y" can't I see one,

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA

I thought Romania only had one prefix I know they are at least 5 or
6 call areas but not a prefix this is a prefix kf ,kg ,wb call areas
are number indentifier like 1,2,3 or kg5 or kg6

Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.

But in the prefix-counting sense, the call district is included in the
prefix. (See, for example, the rules for the CQ WPX series, or the
PODXS DPX awards, for a detailed description.)

So include the number. I've worked YO2, YO3, YO4, YO5, YO6,
YO8, and YO9, but unfortunately only two of them since 19 Jan
2002. :-(

73,
Steve
W3HF

I thought Romania only had one prefix I know they are at least 5 or 6
call areas but not a prefix this is a prefix kf ,kg ,wb call areas
are number indentifier like 1,2,3 or kg5 or kg6