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Re: YO-Endorsement

DL2AYL@...
 

Yes, that must be something like that, I'm just wondering how Jay made the way on my roof.
Erika/DL2AYL

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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [070] YO-Endorsement

Erica now you know how I felt with the DL award maybe you need to check the antenna for the anit-YO filter in there

SteveD
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Re: YO-Endorsement

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Don't feel bad, Erika.  I haven't seen one even before the endorsement was announced.  :) 
 
73,
 
Dick
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: DL2AYL@...
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: [070] YO-Endorsement

Hi Jay,
How do you manage this - the day you announce
a new special endorsement the special stations
disappear completely. Haven't seen any YO since the
release of the YO-endorsement.
73's Erika/DL2AYL


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Re: YO-Endorsement

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Uhmm! just worked YO9ALY, Mircea at 1558z on 10m   :)    Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: DL2AYL@...
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:55 AM
Subject: [070] YO-Endorsement

Hi Jay,
How do you manage this - the day you announce
a new special endorsement the special stations
disappear completely. Haven't seen any YO since the
release of the YO-endorsement.
73's Erika/DL2AYL


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Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 11:09 2/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Before you blame PW0T for responding to calls on their own frequency,
consider the possibility that the station responding to the caller on
PW0T's frequency might not have been PW0T.
Hmmm, that is interesting....I didn't think the freq cops were smart enough to pull off something like that, but that does sound plausible....Jay N3DQU.
Yes, they do. I have heard it a few times on SSB pileups!

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Re: YO-Endorsement

Zoltan Bordas <borzol@...>
 

This is happening to me also almost like your case, Erika... I was full of EA stations last year even when I called DX... and very few found this year, HI.
 
Returning to the YO endorsement, I try to be on frequency almost every day at least 1...2 hours (as my job permits). I didn't like the ATA contest last year when no one TA station was there (well, maybe there was, but I didn't see them...). This morning I worked YO4UQ on 20m, last night on 80m found YO8 and others also.
 
Hope all interested stations will find 5 YO px's sooner or later... I make the proganda to activate as much as I can...
 
73 de Zoli / YO5CRQ

----- Original Message -----
From: DL2AYL@...
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 6:55 PM
Subject: [070] YO-Endorsement

Hi Jay,
How do you manage this - the day you announce
a new special endorsement the special stations
disappear completely. Haven't seen any YO since the
release of the YO-endorsement.
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: YO-Endorsement

Steve W3HF
 


Hi Jay,
How do you manage this - the day you announce
a new special endorsement the special stations
disappear completely. Haven't seen any YO since the
release of the YO-endorsement.
73's Erika/DL2AYL
I think it's like the spanish-speaking diodes that Steve N6YIH has in
his antenna line. hi hi

Actually, I saw both YO9ALY and YO6BHN on 10m PSK about an
hour ago. Didn't get either, though. :-(

73,
Steve
W3HF


YO-Endorsement

DL2AYL@...
 

Hi Jay,
How do you manage this - the day you announce
a new special endorsement the special stations
disappear completely. Haven't seen any YO since the
release of the YO-endorsement.
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

Richard B Drake
 

Interestinly also, on CW the idiot frequency cops are usually not smart enough to exactly match the DX stations frequency and keying characteristics. Therefore it is generally quite easy to tell a pirate from the real McCoy. On PSK, it is not so easy to tell the difference.
 
-------
73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: N3DQU@... [mailto:N3DQU@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 11:10 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

In a message dated 3/2/2002 10:33:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, ve3iay@... writes:


Before you blame PW0T for responding to calls on their own frequency,
consider the possibility that the station responding to the caller on
PW0T's frequency might not have been PW0T.


   Hmmm, that is interesting....I didn't think the freq cops were smart enough to pull off something like that, but that does sound plausible....Jay N3DQU.
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Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

On PSK, it is not so easy to tell the difference.
Especially if you run with the AFC always on.

Jay - AA8QQ


Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

ve3iay <ve3iay@...>
 

Hi Jay,

Before you blame PW0T for responding to calls on their own frequency,
consider the possibility that the station responding to the caller on
PW0T's frequency might not have been PW0T. This is something I have
observed often in CW, but it occurs in digital modes too:

DXpedition sending: CQ DE DX0DX UP 3

XX0LID comes back on the same frequency: DX0DX DE XX0LID XX0LID

"Frequency cop": UP UP UP

XX0LID doesn't go away. A QSO or two later, here's what happens:

DXpedition sends: CQ de DX0DX UP 3

LID comes back yet again: DX0DX DE XX0LID XX0LID

FREQUENCY COP (NOT DX0DX): XX0LID 599

LID: TU 599 599 DE XX0LID

and meanwhile the DXpedition carries on, perhaps even completely
unaware of the goings-on on their transmit frequency. XX0LID won't
ever get a QSL, since he's not in the DXpedition's log, but for the
moment he goes away happy and gets off the frequency.

Apart from ethical and legal considerations, the downside to the
frequency cop's tactic is that by responding on frequency, he is
encouraging the very behaviour that upsets him.

It's sometimes easy to diagnose this by ear in CW when the DXpedition
and the frequency cop are on slightly different frequencies or have
different-strength signals, but XX0LID is already demonstrably unable
to follow instructions, so maybe he will also be unable to figure out
what is going on and will fall for it anyway. In digital modes, you
may need to look very carefully at the signals in your waterfall
display to figure out what is going on.

While I'm at on the soapbox: believe it or not, a lot of callers
appear to call without even being able to copy the DX. At least, they
keep on calling right through a QSO the DX station is completing;
they respond even when the DX makes it clear he is trying to contact
someone else (DX sends 4AA? 4AA? BK and XX0LID calls him despite the
total lack of similarity between the two call signs); they ignore
other instructions (UP 3, or EU ONLY); and even after the DX clearly
works them, they keep on calling, apparently totally unaware that the
DX already has worked them. If you can't copy the DX, how can you
possibly complete a QSO? I would have thought this was obvious, but
apparently it isn't...

73,
Rich VE3IAY




--- In 070@y..., N3DQU@a... wrote:
In a message dated 2/28/2002 1:28:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
AA8QQJMauch@a... writes:


The PW0T op kept saying UP UP
or DOWN DOWN, then, ignoring the ops following his directions,
continuously

answered stations who called on his TX freq.
Yeah, I was surprised to hear him doing that too...best way to
screw up
control over any pileup! Jay N3DQU.


Re: YO-Endorsement

spdomingue@...
 

Erica now you know how I felt with the DL award maybe you need to check the antenna for the anit-YO filter in there

SteveD
N6YIH/7


Re: PW0T (Dxpedition operating)

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 3/2/2002 10:33:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, ve3iay@... writes:


Before you blame PW0T for responding to calls on their own frequency,
consider the possibility that the station responding to the caller on
PW0T's frequency might not have been PW0T.


   Hmmm, that is interesting....I didn't think the freq cops were smart enough to pull off something like that, but that does sound plausible....Jay N3DQU.


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Re: TI9M

Steve W3HF
 

You're probably right then: lots of Alan's! I worked TI9M with AD6E
at the controls on 3 different CW bands and he always acknowledged me
with the club's version of the "secret handshake,' which the PSK op
didn't.
Hey, is there a "secret handshake" for the 070 PSK ops?

Steve
W3HF


Re: Pile up handling (Was: TI9M)

Alan M. Eshleman <doctore@...>
 

Two things that DX stations do that contribute to the chaos are (1) not
identifying frequently enough and (2) running the same geographical area
for hours on end. Now, #2 is sometimes dictated by propagation, but #1 is
inexcusable. Not everybody has packet. This results in all kinds of
"whats-his-calls" on the DX frequency, followed by the cops moving in,
followed by the FU's and general chaos.

Alan/K6SRZ


Re: TI9M

Alan M. Eshleman <doctore@...>
 

You're probably right then: lots of Alan's! I worked TI9M with AD6E at
the controls on 3 different CW bands and he always acknowledged me with
the club's version of the "secret handshake,' which the PSK op didn't.

73,

Alan/K6SRZ

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Melachrinos, Stephen J wrote:

Actually, I think it's Alan Homer KI7WO. I had worked him as KI7WO/TI5
before they made it on the island, and that was a PSK QSO. (I did not have
my log when I made the last post.) I'm not sure, but if there are only two
digimode ops on the trip, then it would be someone who was on PSK just
before.

Steve
W3HF

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From: Alan M. Eshleman[SMTP:doctore@well.com]
Reply To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:29 PM
To: '070@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [070] TI9M

Alan is probably Alan Maenchen, AD6E, one of my fellow Northern California
Contest Club members, who is on the TI9M expedition.
73,

Alan/K6SRZ



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Re: Pile up handling (Was: TI9M)

Richard B Drake
 

Yes I have run into that. Another bad one is when the DX station
is operating split but fails to acknowledge when the station he is
working is finished. This causes everyone who can't hear the
station he is working to call right over top and creates the same
kind of chaos you are talking about. When the DX operator is good
and black lists people who don't follow his instructions, the pile
ups are much more orderly and they work many more stations in a
shorter time.

---
73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Costas Krallis SV1XV [mailto:sv1xv@eexi.gr]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:07 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Pile up handling (Was: [070] TI9M)



On the subject of pile-up handling by DX-stations, it
is true it takes a lot of experience and self discipline
to do it smoothly. I have only handled a few minor
pile-up with SP and DL on 6 m SSB, so I can undertand
how demanding the job of a real DX operator is.

The worst DX operator I have encountered was an EA who
activated a rare IOTA close to my location on 21 MHz SSB.
He was listening on his own frequency and, while propagation
was good for me and signals booming at S9, I was unable
to have a QSO after 2 hours of well timed calls.

What was wrong with him? Instead of calling "QRZ? THIS
IS XYZ, IOTA XX-000" and listen, he would consistently call
one of the kilowatt stations who were breaking over the
last QSO. You can easily guess the chaos caused by this
practice.

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Re: TI9M

Steve W3HF
 

Actually, I think it's Alan Homer KI7WO. I had worked him as KI7WO/TI5
before they made it on the island, and that was a PSK QSO. (I did not have
my log when I made the last post.) I'm not sure, but if there are only two
digimode ops on the trip, then it would be someone who was on PSK just
before.

Steve
W3HF

----------
From: Alan M. Eshleman[SMTP:doctore@well.com]
Reply To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:29 PM
To: '070@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [070] TI9M

Alan is probably Alan Maenchen, AD6E, one of my fellow Northern California
Contest Club members, who is on the TI9M expedition.
73,

Alan/K6SRZ



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TI9M on 28.120

N3DQU@...
 

TI9M on 28.120 PSK


Re: TI9M

DL2AYL@...
 

He is cq-ing right now on 14.081 in RTTY, no pile up yet, got him on the
first try with the beam to Japan.
73's Erika/DL2AYL