Re: St. Pat's Soapbox--my view

Dan Morris - KZ3T

Well stated David.  Could not have said that better my friend.

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

I live to live for Him!

On Mar 22, 2020, at 5:33 PM, David, K9DWR <david@...> wrote:

This is probably a good time to point out that tone matters in effective communication.

While the point Peter is trying to make is valid; there’s a good way, and a poor way to make it.  Using a combative, flame-worthy tone is not going to sway anyone to your side when identifying and trying to correct an issue.

Please think about framing this kind of soapbox in a more constructive manner.  It’s sufficient to point out the problem, provide examples of what would be better, and move on.  Using phrasing that is effectively name-calling and ranting doesn’t help anyone be better at operating, and potentially scares away people that could be helped rather than berated.  If you want better operators, help them be better.  Yelling at them helps nobody.

David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255

On Mar 22, 2020, at 16:01, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:


You’re most likely preaching to the choir here because most PODXS member (should) already know this.  Have said it over & over that contacts must be short and sweet (only required info .. which does not include eye color nor your dogs name).

This contest I put in a couple hours until my hands stopped working efficiently… left hand is the worst and it cramped up so bad I was in pain.  Guess my contest days are numbered.

Didn’t work any new LONPs; so for me contest was a bust.

Maybe if we all keep griping about contest behavior some may get the point, but I rather doubt it.  Wish I had a button on rig that when pushed would out and slap those who aren’t with the program ! 😊

Jerry  n9avy

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From: Peter, NN9K #2629
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] St. Pat's Soapbox--my view

OK I’ll admit it, I’m old, crotchety and the governor says I have to stay in the house! So you can agree or disagree with what I am going to say, but I have to say it!

I would bet that 90% of the folks operating in the St. Pat’s PSK contest have never seriously or semi-seriously contested and it shows. PSK is not a fast mode for making contacts but some operators make it even slower.

There is a rhythm in making contacts in any contest:
--Station AAA calls CQ contest.
--Station BBB answers either by sending AAA de BBB or depending on the contest just sends his call BBB.
--Station AAA acknowledges BBB (this is important if more than one station answers the CQ) by sending BBB and the required exchange, turns it back to BBB by sending de AAA or BK.
--Station BBB acknowledges the receipt of the exchange and sends his exchange: QSL exchange and BK or de BBB.
--Stations acknowledges the receipt of BBB’s exchange and moves on: TU QRZ contest.

A definite rhythm to the exchange is established and all the required information is passed in a minimum amount of time, acknowledged and everyone gets a contact point.

But what happens in this scenario?
--Station AAA calls CQ contest.
--Station BBB answers the CQ with AAA de BBB and sends his information.
--Station AAA acknowledges the information and sends his exchange.
--Nothing more is heard from station B!

So station BBB you didn’t acknowledge the report so you won’t be logged!
I had this happen several times in the St. Pat’s contest as well as in past PODSX070 contests. Station BBB all you did was waste my time.

Let’s talk about the Contest Exchange.
From the rules for the St. Pat’s contest—Exchange: Callsign, RST and State/Province/Country (SPC)   eg: “W9SMR 599 FL”

That is all of the information that needs to be exchanged. I don’t care about your city, grid square, PODXS number or eye color. Sending unneeded information just slows things down!

My two most hated words in a SSB or digital contest: PLEASE COPY. What d0 you think I am going to do with it???

I will admit that any more my contest participation is limited. Hard keeping BIC! Even though I rarely operate PSK outside the PODXS070 contests I do enjoy them, especially the ones with six hour blocks so as long as I am able you’ll see me there.

So agree or disagree with what I have written but as I said in the beginning—I had to say it.

Peter, NN9K


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