Mike - W0TMW #2207
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No. There's still RTTY there and that makes us just as bad as the
FT8'r and others. No need to emulate bad behavior.
Mike - W0TMW #2207
"Lose not thy airspeed, lest the ground rises up and smites thee."
-- William Kershner
On 02/04/2018 04:18 PM, F.R. Ashley
Let me float this idea. Since PSK31 killed off RTTY QSO's, why
PSK31 move into the old RTTY areas? Yeah I know about RTTY
they will run over you anyway. If you still want to QSO in RTTY
do it in the same area. I was RTTY enthusiast since 1981 but
remember last RTTY ragchew. No use beating up FT8, it's here to
will be going like mad thanks to the ARRL Grid Chase or whatever
call it. FT8 is not going to move up. So PSK could, into the
area. Change name to 080Club or 090Club, hi.
Ideas on this thought?
73 Buddy WB4M
No use beating up FT8, it's here to stay and will be going like
thanks to the ARRL Grid Chase or whatever they call it. FT8 is
going to move up. So PSK should, into the old RTTY area. Change
080Club or 090Club, hi.
On 2/4/2018 3:27 PM, Brian Wolf Leverich wrote:
I have feet in the RTTY, PSK, and FT-8 worlds. And I *really*
don't like this
idea of FT-8 gnawing into PSK-Land.
In particular, PSK is in decline because we're approaching the
dead bottom of
the solar cycle, the low-noise upper bands aren't usable, and
unfortunate) ethic of running low power means we're mostly below
floor on the bands that are open now.
Three years from now, PSK will be an increasingly vibrant mode.
FT-8 would be, with people running a kilowatt and a half. (Yes,
The place where there is a *lot* of unused spectrum is in
above 080. When there's not a contest happening, that's largely
Even when there is a contest, moving FT-8 to 080-090 would have
material impact on the RTTY contesting because we just sprawl
over the CW segment anyway on contest weekends.
(Yeah, I know a few digital modes already live in 080-090. But
don't have the user population of RTTY, PSK, or FT-8.)
So that's what I'd do. Gnaw off 5 or 10KHz of RTTY-Land just
above the old
stomping grounds of the digital modes. Doing that would have
practical impact on how *anyone* operates now or when the
moves to a different phase.
Cheers, Wolf WA6I
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 09:34:53AM -0800, Rick - N7WE wrote:
Just picked this up off the eHam digital
. . .
I suggest that if conditions are such
that FT8 is full and PSK31 is lightly
used, FT8 "grow downward" into what has been PSK land. *If
there are PSK-31
signals there then don't!* If PSK31 ops are willing to be
start at the low end and fill in upward that should not
except the poor FT-8 op who will no longer be "on the
someone tunes lower. Radios that have RF waterfalls will show
if there is
activity below 74, and others may choose to tune down 500 Hz
or so if the 74
waterfall is full to check who is there. OR NOT, we won't know