Re: 17m PSK31


Jerry N9AVY
 

Yup !  Same thing I've been finding almost daily.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "JEFF WALSH jeffwalsh1644@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31

 
My curiosity got the best of me ....After reading some of the original posts on 17m earlier today I went to 18.100 and sent out cq's in psk31 for about 20 minutes starting at about 21:00 zulu ..... I got no takers but the frequency was sure full of signals that were not psk ..... 

JEFF WALSH
W3WMU
#1673
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WORLDWIDE HEADQUARTERS
STURGIS, MS.


On Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:04 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Methinks the well-respected developer of FT8 wither a a brain fart , didn't care or is getting senile.  He owes an apology to PSK31 operators everywhere !
 
If we didn't need band plans and everyone would operate as they pleased, the bands would be in total chaos. And they sure seem to be getting there now !
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31

 
If I’d have received an email like that, I’d have politely (maybe) reminded the individual that the frequency had previously been occupied by another mode and that they didn’t get to decide what the band plan was all by themselves.

I’m all for everyone getting along and nobody ‘owning’ a frequency, but when they were told (and they have been) that they had chosen anchor frequencies that were already spoken for by gentleman’s agreement, they should have moved their anchors. The fact that they did not makes me think far less of the developer than I might have otherwise.

I tried FT8 for a hot 15 minutes, got bored, and uninstalled the software. I don't see the attraction.

Mike
WM4B

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Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:02 PM
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Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31

Well fellows, this seems to be a problem on many bands now. The FT8 group seems to have chosen frequencies without regard for other users and since it seems to be the hot thing now FT8 users are blanketing those areas. The EU window for Hellschriber uses was 14074 and a couple of weeks ago, I got an email from one of the authors of the article in QST tell me that I should change frequencies since that is now the FT8 frequency. A lot of other digital mode users have reported the same problem with FT8 users invading their normal frequencies. From what I understand, originally the FT8 frequencies would be 2 khz higher that JT65, which would have not caused problems for most other users of the less common digital modes, but somewhere along the line that has changed. The frequencies are included in the software so that’s where the gang has setup. Since the article was published last month it will probably be worse before it gets better.

I personally don’t use the mode, although I tried it when it first came out and basically decided that is more my computer talking to your computer rather than ham radio. Any ways my thougths.

73
Dick
KC3EF

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Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:49 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31


Yep.

Mike
WM4B

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Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31

So whose fault was it those FT8 stations are all on 18.000 ... thought I read somewhere that it was the designer ???

Jerry n9avy

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