Re: This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

Jerry N9AVY

No more complaints, whining nor sniveling from me. 

I'll just send out notice to offending stations in U.S. ...

Jerry  N9AVY

From: "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 5:20 PM
Subject: [070] This string has nothing to do with "Strange Band Today"

Listen, guys!
We go over this, and over this and over this far too often.
We have far too many new members that are reading these complaining, sniveling and whining  posts and taking their que as to what the club’s all about from the pedantic rambling of a few on worn out used up post’s.
It happens. Folks transmit on top of us. So what??
Is expounding on it here, in an open forum going to solve anything? Nope.
You betcha it isn’t proper form to “snag” a frequency in use by someone else. No argument about that.
It’s just that this crap gets old, old, old here on the 070 Club Yahoo reflector.
In no form of my imagination is this what our Yahoo forum is intended to be.
While I’m at it, I leave my promotion for the “Great movement of broadmindedness to anyone who can see my views”.
070 Club Staff – Director of Public Relations
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
I was in QSO for over 10 minutes with a station when another jumped on my frequency just as I was about to call CQ again.  He sure heard me !  If I would have been my old nasty self I would have made sure he heard me in no uncertain terms.
It's just rude to snag another's frequency without even waiting a minute to make sure the freq was clear. This type of behavior is not acceptable with the band as dead as it was. There's plenty of room without jumping on someone's frequency.
Reminds me of when I used to fish and as soon as you reel in everyone is tossing their line in the same spot I was in.  
If you ask me, this type of behavior is what causes people to behave like Todd.
From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Strange band today
Jerry — I know everyone has been harping on this checking frequency bit but on the other hand if a station is listening on that frequency for a few minutes and hears nothing I don’t see what difference it would make whether he sends a QRL or not.  It might just be that he could not hear those two stations at all??   And if that is the case it really doesn’t make much difference.  Bands condx are very up and down .. Heck, I’ve heard one way communications where I could not hear one station but could hear the other.  Usually that is the case.   
I would think that before we all start jumping on this having manners crap just consider that that station may not have heard the other two.  I’ve seen on this reflector where it seems the first thing that people do is state that that station has no manners.  Not his fault if he can’t hear the other two stations!!
Now, before I get hate mails, I do agree, polite thing is to send a QRL and check but there have been many times when I will set there and listen on a frequency and after a set amount of time if I don’t hear anything I will transmit.  so far I have never interfered with another station (that I know of) — If I did then I could not hear them and evidently they could hear me.  Then again there are those that just jump in on a frequency without listening or sending out a QRL and those are the ones that don’t have the manners or courtesy.   The way your last sentence about Part 97, about checking a frequency then if I listen on a frequency for a couple of minutes or so and hear nothing then I have actually checked to see if that frequency is in use.   Semantics I guess.
Just saying --

Dan Morris   KZ3T   070-1065
On Aug 17, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
Hanging out on 20m today and noticed very few stations on air. What's there is all stateside.
Funny thing... finished a QSO with CA station and another station starts calling CQ on same frequency.  It would say it was a freak happening but I noticed the same thing with another station who was in QSO.  Just weird... good manners would be to ask if frequency was in use (QRL?) before running a CQ  or maybe just call the station who left the frequency ?  There's something in Part 97 somewhere about checking if frequency is in use.
This/ I would guess, shows a lack of proper instruction on the part of some hams. 
Just sayin'
Jerry  N9AVY

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