Re: PSKfest comments - ad nauseam


 

Gents,
Ad nauseam? Ha!
I had a great time! Worked 10 new LONP contacts and 30 new WABOL contacts.
Not throwing rocks, but it was nice to exchange reports and greetings with some of the guys/gals that I only see in the operating events.
Onward and upward to the Valentine Sprint !
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
Chairman of the Ad Hoc Operating Event Cheerleading Committee

----- Original Message -----
From: ljl2002@...
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: PSKfest comments - ad nauseam



Fellas, fellas.

The contest was supposed to be a fun event.
Did ya have any fun?
I did. Got to see a bunch of familiar calls and it was good to know that you all survived the Mayan calendar.
If ya made a QSO, ya did OK.

73. HNY!!!
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

--- On Tue, 1/8/13, James Ferris ferris1727@...> wrote:

From: James Ferris ferris1727@...>
Subject: Re: [070] Re: PSKfest comments - ad nauseam
To: 070@...
Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2013, 10:26 AM

Isn't it about time to put this to bed?. This is starting to sound like
the Congress and the Contest Cliff.

Besr regards,
Jim, W5FER

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:18 AM, David Westbrook dwestbrook@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> > Problem is, Carl, you and I are old hams who were taught proper operating
> techniques regardless of mode.
>
> So since i'm a new ham, i don't know proper technique? And my elmers (very
> good contesters; and old hams btw) that taught me apparently don't know it
> either?
> Are you sure it's not because i have a no-code extra class license? besides
> being a new ham, i've been accused of that before, too, but that's a whole
> other story!
> How long do you thing the hobby will last without new hams? Or without
> "old hams" teaching those proper techniques to the "new hams" instead of
> just griping?
>
> Yes, i'm a "new" (op 1977, ham 2009) ham ...
> ... BUT I guarantee that **I** know things about ham radio that **you**
> don't ...
> ... AND I guarantee that **you** know things about ham radio that **I**
> don't.
>
> The extremely broad range of topics is one of the great things about this
> hobby ... The very bad thing in this hobby is hams that criticize and look
> down on other ham because they like PSK or any digital or eqsl or lotw or
> echolink or sdr or remote or contesting or don't know cw or like to ragchew
> or don't like to ragchew or whatever else.
>
> And the "proper operating techniques" will absolutely be dependent upon the
> mode/context (examples on request).. so you cannot say "regardless of
> mode".
>
> Nothing i've written or suggested in these threads has been improper
> operating technique in the context of contesting ... If it has, i'm happy
> to be objectively corrected. That is the point of having this reflector
> for discussions ...
>
> --david
> KJ4IZW
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Brian Hemmis bhemmis@...> wrote:
>
> > Problem is, Carl, you and I are old hams who were taught proper operating
> > techniques regardless of mode.
> > 73, Brian K3USC
> > On Jan 8, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Carl Rimmer W8KRF w8krf@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, I just do not get it. Oh, BTW, the website says to call "CQ
> > > PSKFEST". How do you know I am calling you. There may be another
> station
> > > on the freq which I hear and you don't. I may be calling him. I
> > understand
> > > this sort of "uber-terse" operation in a SSB contest but not digital.
> > > AND...you are using all uppercase in your example which uses more time.
> > > This is getting way too tense for me. I am not sure if I am as
> interested
> > > in 070 "contests" now as I thought I was. We only approach perfection
> by
> > > admitting our imperfections. It sounds like some of you are perfect.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of
> > David
> > > Westbrook
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:26 PM
> > > To: 070@...
> > > Subject: Re: [070] Re: PSKfest comments
> > >
> > > You still know who's-who, even with the uber-terse sequence -- it has
> > that
> > > built-in, along with every necessary element for a complete contest
> QSO,
> > > which i personally find very elegant:
> > >
> > > CQ CQ TEST KJ4IZW KJ4IZW CQ
> > > W8KRF W8KRF
> > > W8KRF 599 SC SC W8KRF
> > > KJ4IZW 599 OH OH W8KRF
> > > TU W8KRF KJ4IZW CQ
> > >
> > > I have successfully used that sequence (both as CQ'er and S/P'er) in
> rtty
> > > contests when two stations that can't hear each other are CQ'ing on top
> > of
> > > each other on exact freq, and the S/P'er can hear both.
> > >
> > > But again, the focus for this type of sequence is optimizing the QSO
> rate
> > > (e.g. RTTY contest).
> > >
> > > --david
> > > kj4izw
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Carl Rimmer W8KRF w8krf@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OF COURSE they want to see their call. Remember we do not see all the
> > > > signals that may be a certain freq. Propagation is not the same for
> > > > everyone. You may see/hear a station which I do not. How do I know if
> > > > you are responding to him or me? Can't we just stick with the
> standard
> > > > calling procedure, i.e., "His call de My call k" I will tell you all
> > > > right now, if I do not see my call as the called station, I will not
> > > respond. Amen.
> > > >
> > > > Carl W8KRF
> > > >
> > > > From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] On Behalf Of
> > > > Darrell Frappier
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 5:59 PM
> > > > To: 070@...
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [070] Re: PSKfest comments
> > > >
> > > > I followed the discussion on exchanges and found it useful. I
> switched
> > > > to fldigi and needed to set up macros.
> > > >
> > > > I tried replying to CQ's with "n3jwj n3jwj" and got no response on at
> > > > least 6 attempts. After the last attempt I responded next time with
> > > > "call de n3jwj n3jwj k" and got an instant response. I didn't exactly
> > > > remember who had not responded before, but I think at least 3 who did
> > > > not respond came back when I started my response to them with their
> > > > call. I conclude that those 6 or so stations calling cq test expected
> > > > to see their call in a response.
> > > >
> > > > Darrell N3JWJ
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM, rockdw david@...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I'm the one that asked the question about what the best macro
> > > > > setup
> > > > is, it seems only fitting for me to weigh in on the subject. First of
> > > > all, I'd like to say thank you for all the suggestions. It really
> > > > helped to get me in the right frame of mind.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I ultimately did was respond as follows (since I really didn't
> > > > > call
> > > > CQ myself at all):
> > > > >
> > > > > Inital answer:
> > > > > call de k9dwr k
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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